(Roughly) Projecting The Elvis Andrus/Michael Young Tandem
Will Elvis Andrus (pictured) prove capable of compensating for his inadequate bat in 2009?One of several misconceptions I have noticed swirling around the baseball blogosphere since the Texas Rangers opted to publicly throw their support behind 20-year-old Elvis Andrus last week has been the notion that because the left side of the projected 2009 infield appears substantially stronger on paper from a defensive standpoint, that thus constitutes a major projected improvement over the voluminous assortment of players the Rangers fielded at shortstop and third base in 2008 in terms of total value.
That, unfortunately, really isn't the case.
Given that I have been among the most vocal of those incessantly prattling on about just how egregiously shabby the Rangers' defensive body of work was at the hot corner in 2008, I suppose I am partly to blame for this statistical misinterpretation. While it is ostensibly true that the motley crew of infielders in question that were utilized by the Rangers at third base -- including Hank Blalock, Chris Davis, German Duran, Travis Metcalf and the now-departed Ramon Vazquez -- cost Texas anywhere from 25 to 30 runs defensively beyond that of what a league-average third baseman would have yielded, and while it is also true that Texas is now far better positioned in that regard going forward, the enormous projected gain in runs saved is going to be largely neutralized by the runs lost offensively.
In a somewhat inspired attempt to illustrate this concept, I've approximated some offensive and defensive numbers in the table you see below using the previously discussed concept of wins above replacement (level). For 2008, I've taken the overall batting lines Texas extracted out of shortstop (.283/.339/.408 in 767 PA) and third base (.281/.339/.469 in 655 PA) and roughly converted them into wOBA, or weighted on-base average, using the method suggested by Beyond the Box Score's Sky Kalkman; for 2009, I loosely employed Sean Smith's CHONE offensive projections for Michael Young (.284/.351/.423) and Elvis Andrus (.238/.286/.312), again roughly converted them into wOBA, and then extrapolated them out over 700 plate appearances, which is a nice, convenient number to work with -- albeit one with a major limitation, which I'll briefly touch on later.
From there, it was a cinch to compute offensive run values above and below average, which are denoted by the 'BAT' column; however, before we go any further, perhaps a two-paragraph primer on wOBA would be in order:
OPS, as you probably know, significantly undervalues the ability of a hitter to get on base. It treats a .330 OBP/.470 slug as equal to a .400 OBP/.400 slug, when the latter is more conducive to scoring runs. wOBA gives proper weight to all the things a hitter can do to produce value, and is a more accurate reflection of a hitter’s value.
[...] The other great advantage wOBA has is that it’s extremely easy to convert into run values. Simply take a player’s wOBA difference from the league average, divide by 1.15, and multiply that by how many plate appearances he got, and you have a run value above or below average for that player.
'FLD' denotes the number of defensive runs above or below average at the position in question, which can be roughly calculated -- for 2008, at least -- with John Dewan's plus/minus defensive rating system and Mitchel Lichtman's Ultimate Zone Rating. As one might surmise, educated guesses came into play with the 2009 defensive projections, but can be altered at your own discretion; if, for example, you believe that Andrus and his presumptive backup/mentor, Omar Vizquel, will contribute more than five runs above average defensively in 2009, you can add to the number I assigned. Remember, this little exercise is almost entirely reliant on ballpark figures.
'ADJ[usted]' is the summation of the replacement level adjustment (set at 20 runs per 600 plate appearances and allocated as necessary) and Tom Tango's positional adjustments, both of which are explained in greater detail here. 'BAT,' 'FLD' and 'ADJ' collectively comprise 'V[alue]. Runs,' or runs above replacement, which results in 'V[alue]. Wins' when divided by 10.
Now that your mind has been properly blown, we can dive into the actual numbers:
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Note that I have actually been quite generous with regard to Andrus's projected offensive output; his actual CHONE-projected wOBA is .270, but if you're daring enough to believe that he can notch a .300 on-base percentage and .315 slugging percentage (and that Vizquel can match that level of offensive "prowess" if Andrus should falter entirely), then .280 is an appropriate number.
This, my friends, is what you're probably going to get -- and, for that matter, what you should be bracing yourselves for -- from a 20-year-old shortstop who hasn't played a day above AA-ball, talented and charismatic and poised as he might be. This is what might well equate to a step backwards in terms of value runs produced by the left side of the infield in 2009 when compared to 2008, and this is what I was attempting to delineate.
Now, is any of that to say that the renewed emphasis the organization has placed on good fielding -- particularly from the infield, where strong defense is doubly important if you want to build an effective ground ball-inducing pitching staff -- is misguided? Not in the slightest. In fact, I daresay this is one of the more encouraging and uplifting organizational developments of the off-season from a baseball philosophy standpoint. Good fielding begets improved run prevention, which in turn begets winning more ballgames.
And, of course, my little chart is inherently flawed; given that Young more likely than not will take the field 98 percent of the time in the three-hole this coming season, he's going to end up logging more than 700 plate appearances; conversely; Andrus and Vizquel -- or whoever is summoned to play shortstop -- won't log 700 plate appearances batting eighth or ninth, and that throws off the offensive numbers to a certain degree. Andrus's blinding speed isn't accounted for here, and it's quite possible that he'll generate runs on the basepaths with a high enough stolen-base percentage, or that he'll outpace his offensive projection, or that Young will underperform ... projections are, well, projections, and should always be viewed in that context.
Hopefully, the immediate ramifications of the tradeoff the Rangers have chosen to make for the 2009 season (that is, sacrificing offense for defense) have come into slightly clearer focus. I fully comprehend that the decision to move Young now and make the starting shortstop job Andrus's to lose was predicated on preparing for legitimate playoff contention in 2010 and beyond; that said, it's going to take a little while for the benefits to actually materialize.




Joey Matschulat
Reader Comments (15)
My optimistic gut is telling me that Young wil be league average at 3B defensively, while Andrus will be closer to that .270 wOBA. Your point is dead on, though, that this move is made with the long term picture in mind, and 2010 is likely to see solid improvement from Andrus offensively. Still below league average SS for a couple of years, but good enough to help a contender as the 9 hitter.
I think too many will focus on Andrus' error totals and weak bat. Hopefully the media will be asking about his overall growth and improvement without dwelling too much in the short term.
I'm as eager to see Andrus in the bigs as anyone, and I'm still not 100% convinced this is a good long term strategy. The feeling does seem to be that the team is preparing for 2010 and beyond, but I'm not clear how throwing an inexperienced infielder right into the line of fire, probably more than a year before he's truly ready, can be reconciled with this mindset. It seems like it's a mistake just waiting to unfold.
Nice statistical breakdown. I think it puts into numerical values what we already knew: Andrus at SS and Young at 3B is going to make this team "worse" overall in '09 than Young at SS and a stop-gap 3B.
While I agree with this decision by the front office I have my concerns:
1. Andrus' defense. t ball mentions his high error numbers and that they might be the root of too much discussion. In general I agree. I heard too many radio personalities deriding Andrus' high error totals last year and wondering how he could be better than a "gold glove ss" like Young. This thinking is obviously shortsighted and foolhardy but obviously Andrus must improve his defensive output from last year. Whether this means more maturity or mental focus then we need to see it. I do believe that Vizquel coming in could help in this regard.
2. The club's commitment. Is the club really willing to endure a .270 wOBA from Andrus for the entire season? I hope so since it'll probably be best for the long-term, but I have my doubts that come June if Andrus is throwing up a .220/.260/.300 they will resist the urge to ditch the plan. This is especially true if he's gotten off to a rough start defensively.
So, I might prefer if we could bring in a relatively cheap free agent on a 1 year contract. This could be Vizquel or O. Cabrera. It may be better to let Andrus start the season in OKC/Frisco and come up in May/June. I don't know, but if the club isn't truly committed to letting Andrus struggle mightily this season, this could turn out badly.
Should be interesting to see how both of them will perform. I figure Young can't be as bad as Vasquez & Davis were at third last season. Elvis might make his share of errors, but if I remember correctly, there were countless examples last season of ground balls up the middle that MY simply couldn't get to - that Elvis will certainly get to. So the D might actually be better.
Now, if Elvis can hit around. 275 and learn to draw a few walks to go along with it (maybe he can also throw in a drag bunt or two), I think he'll be okay o-wise.
Just as long as Andrus earns it.....we dont want another MLB job given to a projected phenom; like we did with Ruben Mateo. That was tough to handle.
I can definitely see Young being average defensively at third base in '09 -- when it came time to project defense at each position, I tried to play it conservatively. Change Young's minus-5 into an even zero, and the total disparity (which is actually around 6.5 runs, or a little more than half a win) between '08 actual and '09 projected is lessened to a point where it's virtually negligible. Of course, also note that CHONE is projecting a bounceback for Young to .284/.351/.423, which quite a few people seem to believe is out of reach. There's a ton of wiggle room here.
FWIW, when calculating the composite +/- and UZR at shortstop last season, it came out to something like -4.3 in UZR and -7 in +/- between Young, Vazquez and Duran, so -5 seemed like a logical number to input.
One thing that did really stand out was just how much damage was inflicted by that abhorrent '08 defense at third base, which this table does a good job of portraying. I do want to stress that none of this is actually conclusive evidence that the Rangers actually will take a step backwards in '09; the difference is, after all, less than 10 runs, and it's entirely possible they'll end up virtually identical. What should be taken away from all of this is that it's improbable the '09 3B/SS alignment will come out ahead of the '08 alignment from a pure win value standpoint.
Hate to ask you to look into this Joey, but knowing that Vazquez is gone and his .847 OPS from 3B. Is the projected Young 3B/Andrus SS the best possible lineup we currently have, or would a Metcalf/Duran 3B/ Young SS have made more sense? It seems to me that Andrus defense at SS would more than make up for a Metcalf/Duran combination at 3rd. Obviously if we had retained Vazquez, things would be different (something you have to look at - wouldn't have Vazquez have been more valuable with his age/bat/utility even at his salary, than what Vizquel will be?)
So to further elaborate, our three top offensive players at third last year were:
Chris Davis (.294/.344/.538 in 118 AB)
Hank Blalock (.273/.331/.438 in 121 AB)
Ramon Vazquez (.316/.388/.459 in 209 AB)
so the plan going forward has always been that Vazquez wouldn't be retained, that Blalock's health wouldn't alllow for him to play third (at least to start the season), and Davis was better off at 1st, then maybe the article should have been about the vs. of what we currently have on the roster like I mentioned before. Right now we don't have the players capable of even coming close to the offensive out put of third last season unless we would have moved Davis there full time.
Robert,
Ran some numbers quickly and they confirmed my suspicions -- assuming a .300ish wOBA at third base and league-average defense from Metcalf and Duran (which might actually be bullish, since Metcalf's CHONE projection is really pretty horrible), the Metcalf/Duran at 3B and Young at SS alignment projects as maybe two or three runs better than the Andrus at SS and Young at 3B alignment overall, though I'm inclined to think they're about dead even. There's very little difference.
Now, if you want to get into Crede/Young vs. Young/Andrus, the former is obviously far better on paper, but then you're talking about spending money and such and that seems to be a touchy subject at this point in time.
Joey,
What are your feelings regarding these moves going forward? I obviously Terry's comment and threw up a little when I thought of Ruben Mateo in all his glory. I def. don't want Andrus to go down that road, but I also thing it's reasonable to believe that if Andrus never hits at all, his defense and speed will allow him to stay at SS which is a much less premium offensive position than CF in my mind. Also, our farm system is typically littered with offensive studs like Smoak to cover for other offensive liabilities.
Two things:
(1) Andrus isn't ready, and I thought the Young move would be happening next winter, but I can see the logic behind what the Rangers are doing right now and can agree with it to an extent.
I wasn't a diehard Rangers fan when Mateo was first breaking into the majors, so I can't really speak to the general consensus on his make-up and poise and such at the time, but I get the distinct impression from the likes of Jamey, MJH, J. Cole and J. Parks that Andrus is not a huge risk from an early flameout standpoint -- that is, the kind of player who might be forever tarnished because he was promoted too soon and lost his confidence. I don't think that's a tremendous concern with Elvis.
(2) Even if Andrus peaks at something like .280/.320/.380 with a +10 glove, he'll be an average shortstop in the AL. I think he'll be better than that.
P.S. -- Mentioned this in the forum under the 'Site Suggestions' thread, but John and I have a podcast in the works.
Joey,
Thanks for that. Just my belief, but seems the Rangers are going full throttle towards '10 with this move, believing it's more important to get Andrus major league time ASAP, vs. more seasoning in the minors. Not sure I absolutely agree with that because my belief is you don't rule yourself out of it in '09 till you're OUT of it in '09, and the franchise can't just assume that '10 and '11 will be when they are ruling the AL West. I just don't want to see them hurry our top guys (Feliz, Holland, Smoak, ect) in an effort to put our future on the field now. But maybe I'm getting ahead of myself. Hopefully they're just thinking Andrus as the 9th hole hitter. I can't imagine with the best offense in baseball, that a player can preform THAT poorly in the last slot. He should be seeing good pitches to hit all season as long as Kinsler, Hamilton, and Blalock say healthy all season, Cruz shows he's ready to break through, and we get any offense out of the catching position.
Oh, and I'm super psyched about the podcast!
Joey,
1st, i had a blast meeting you last night for the autograph session. Apologies for talking your ear off. (pics are on newbergreport.com and i can give you as link if you want bigger sized photo's)
As we discussed (and im repeating here because you will have slept since Tuesday night) this is a big move for improving the Rangers not only for 2010, but also for 2009 compared to Metcalf/Crede 3B.
Also, i suggest you change your major from business to statistics....
i agree with bringing andrus up now. he might struggle, but it's good that the rangers systematically bring up a few of their "prominent" minor leaguers at a time.
you don't want to come into 2010+ "expecting to compete" with a bunch of rookies that will all be (or expeted to be) called up at the same time (feliz, holland, andrus, smoak, etc..)