Prospect Interview Series: Martin Perez
Martin Perez - Jason Cole/Scout.comMartin Perez is the most heralded international signee in recent memory for the Texas Rangers. The Venezuelan southpaw was considered the top left-hander available in the 2007 international market, and thanks to the hard work and brilliance of the Rangers' scouting department, most notably A.J. Preller, Don Welke, and Manny Batista, Perez signed for $580,000.
It's easy to sit here and wax hyperbolic about the promise Martin Perez has to offer. He clearly represents top-of-the-rotation potential, and despite his young age (17), Perez is slated to start the '09 season in Low-A Hickory's prospect-laden rotation. With his advanced arsenal and natural feel for pitching, Perez stands on the cusp of becoming one of the very best prospects in minor league baseball.
Martin Perez has all the physical gifts necessary to be a major league pitcher, but his finest attribute, the one that could take his natural skill set to the next level, is his intelligence. Perez has an exceptionally precocious mind that always seems to be a few steps ahead of everybody else. If his ability to retain and process information can translate to the mound, the Texas Rangers could be looking at a player that hints at the physical gifts of a Johan Santana in combination with the intellectual gifts of a Greg Maddux (obviously I'm not trying to suggest Perez will be equal to Santana or Maddux). Basically, Martin Perez, much like Michael Main, is the complete package; the perfect storm of pitching prospects.
I had the privilege of speaking with Perez during the Fall Instructional League, and if you hadn't guessed by now, I came away quite impressed. We discussed the circumstances that led up to his signing with the Rangers, as well as the pressures associated with being a 17-year-old playing professional baseball 4,000 miles away from home.
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Q: When did you start playing baseball? Did you dream of being a professional baseball player when you were growing up in Venezuela?
Perez: I started playing at nine years old, but I never thought I would be a professional. I never thought that. But I had a friend that said to me you know, you could be signed, you could get a scholarship because of your age. Then I began to practice with him everyday from 6:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. at night. I told my father that I was tired, but he said, “No, you have to keep going."
Q: Can you describe the signing process? What were some of the events that led to you becoming a member of the Texas Rangers?
Perez: Eventually, I was advised by some baseball people in Venezuela and one of them said that he wanted to take me to Valencia so that I could begin practicing with him. He also said that he believed he could get me signed after one year of training. I said, "Are you sure?" and he told me to relax and that he definitely felt he could. He warned me that it wasn't going to be anything like playing at home, but I decided to go in 2006.
After about three months, I was waking up at 5:00 a.m., and I hate mornings. I would eat breakfast, but then eat nothing else until 5:00 p.m. because of practice. Eventually, my family became concerned that they were giving me too much work and said that I could not go on in such a way. At that point, I didn't want to continue on, so my family told them to send me home.
They let me go home and I rested for all of December. Then I said to my mom, "Do I have to go back to Valencia for the whole next year?" She said, "We will have to wait and see, but calm down, I really believe that you will be signed soon."
So I left for Valencia again and began to practice really, really hard. The coaches began to say that they had never seen talent like this. We continued to practice my pitching really hard and people kept noticing. They gave me a lot of coaching about my pitches. There was a lot of, I don't know, envy within those people. Many people spoke to me a lot and they also caused a lot of problems.
One day they finally came to me and said that I need to be home by July 2nd, because I was going to be signed. So of course, that day I was at home just waiting and hoping and waiting and hoping they would arrive. At 11:30 in my house I signed. The next day, the St. Louis Cardinals called me and said, “Martin, we want to offer you $600,000," but I had to tell them that I signed with the Texas Rangers.
Q: Let's take a quick step back and talk about your pitching arsenal. What pitches do you throw and can you show me the grips you use?
Perez: Sure.
Fastball

Curveball

Change-up

Q: What pitch needs the most work?
Perez: I definitely have to improve my change-up.
Q: Wait, so you aren't already Johan Santana?
Perez: [Laughing] No, no, no. Johan is the best.
Q: Have you heard the Johan Santana comparisons? How does that make you feel to be compared to such a great Venezuelan pitcher?
Perez: Sure, I started hearing them when I was still in Venezuela. It makes me feel good, but I'm just Martin. I'm not like anybody else.
Q: Were you afraid to make the jump all the way to short-season Spokane at such a young age? Did you anticipate such an advanced promotion? Can you describe the process?
Perez: In January I went to the Dominican Republic, before coming here [to Surprise] and I completed my training there just fine. I did my work. Then I came here for spring training and I pitched pretty well. Then they asked me if I wanted to pitch in Spokane and I said that I didn't really want to and I even talked with Wilfredo [Boscan] about it, because you know we are some of the youngest players.
They understood that being so young makes it difficult, but if I go and pitch there I will get much better. But I am the youngest in the league and I had to question myself about what I was choosing to do. People asked, "Have you made the right decision, you are very young after all," but I didn't want to pack my bags twice. I felt the pressure because I am the youngest of the league. I thought I had been doing all of this hard work so that they could send me to Spokane.
So we waited to see who would be on the list. We practiced that Wednesday and Thursday, but the whole time I was feeling the pressure of who was going to be on the list. After practice we were standing around waiting for them to read the list, Wilfredo [Boscan] was there, and they started reading. They said many names and I thought mine was never going to come, but they finally said it, "Martin Perez." I was so excited! In the end it worked out.
Q: What was it like when you finally stepped on the rubber to pitch in a minor league game?
Perez: The first time I started in Spokane it was bad, but I finished well and in the end it all went well.
Q: How would you describe your first professional season?
Perez: I just started to pitch better and stronger and little by little I got better by the end. They named me the MVP. Everything has gone well for me since I signed. I left my studies behind for another career and everything has worked out well thanks to my family's support.
Q: What are some of your goals going into next season?
Perez: My objective is to start in Clinton [Hickory] and to be sure I am the best. If I begin well, I know I will continue to do a good job pitching there.
Q: What was it like playing in the Unites States, separated from everything that was familiar to you?
Perez: It's not easy if you don't know the language. If you come from Venezuela, like me, you have to get used to how difficult it can be here in the states. You are alone and bored, but that's what you have to do if you are going to be here for years without family, without friends, without anyone. It is hard, but it's worth it.
Q: How do you deal with that isolation at such a young age?
Perez: I left my house at the age of fifteen and I am the youngest of my family, so I felt really alone. Little by little you realize that without your family around you, you have to develop another kind of attitude. You have to focus on other things. But it's something you have to work at little by little, to get used to being alone.
Q: You mentioned how hard it can be if you don't know the language. How is your English progressing? Are you making an effort to learn?
Perez: Yes, I have learned a little English, but it is more difficult because it feels like everything is backwards. Some of the other guys try to teach me.
Q: Who are some of the pitchers in the Rangers system that impress you with their ability? Who makes you sit up and take notice?
Perez: Wilfredo Boscan, Wilmer Font, and Carlos Pimentel. No question.
Q: How do you deal with the pressures associated with being a top prospect?
Perez: There is a little bit of pressure, but I control it. I have learned to just concentrate on the game and block everything else out. You have to. You can't worry about what others are thinking, just focus on what you are there to do.
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Gracias, mi amigo Martin, y espero que tengas salud y suerte en el año que viene.




Jason Parks
Reader Comments (33)
Terrific job J. Parks. Going to be very enjoyable to watch young Mr. Perez ascend the system.
I'll add that as impressed as I am with the young talent on the Rangers, I'm equally impressed with the young talent of BBTiA. Brings back early Newberg memories, when it was purely about the game and not the board personalities.
Thanks.
It would be great to do a follow up with him next fall. Thanks for a great read.
Great interview JP. I like the pictures of the different grips, something that I haven't seen elsewhere and a great idea.
Great work as usual Jason!
You're so much better than the rest of us.
Great work Jason.
Great work Jason. I'm excited about Perez as well as the other pitchers he mentioned he was impressed with. Very nice read as always.
Great work Jason.
Great stuff here, and possibly the best 17-year-old pitcher in the world. Here's some video if anyone's interested:
http://www.prospecttube.com/video/martin-perez
Interesting curveball grip. Is that common?
Rob: Perez uses a knuckle/spike curveball grip. It's not all that common.
Does anyone else think that Martin's hands look abnormally giant? Seriously, he looks as if he could stretch his fingers all the way from one side to the other. That looks like a miniature baseball!
Martin Perez bottom line gets me excited. Not only that but he seems like a genuinely good kid too. Welcome to the Ranger family Martin, we gladly take you in.
Wonderful stuff Jason -- your best work.
This is perfectly timed, some Parks greatness to distract us from the MY debacle. Thanks Jason, this is one of your best yet.
Great read by the way, didn't mean to leave that out the first time around. JP it is helping.
What I like is how good of answers Martin gave, and that you guy's seemed to have a good time during the duration of the interview. He was even cool enough to show his pitch grips.
SALUTE!
UTBlair,
I agree, and have wondered in the past if there's a necessary proportion to be able to master these grips effectively. As a father of a couple young pitchers (with very differently proportioned bodies), I'd love a study on the correlation between size of hand and ability to develop pitches.
Thanks again, Jason. I love these.
That curve grip isn't as uncommon as you'd think and is being taught more. The key is whether he's tipping it. The change grip ... umm, not so good. Pretty understandabel why it's not working yet, though with his hands, he should be able to adjust.
I don't think the knuckle grip is a common curve grip in the Rangers system. I haven't been able to see all of their grips, but I have seen quite a few a them, and the majority of them seem to prefer the straight curve grip. Of course, they experiment with different grips all the the time, so it's quite possible that the knuckle grip is more common than I am suggesting.
I used the word "grip" six times in three sentences. Beat that Carroll!
Will Carroll, sir,
"The change grip...umm, not so good"
Would you expand on that please. Early on I taught my now 11yo travel/select player the Ryan circle change. I turned him over to professional instructors last year. His pitching coach teaches the grip shown above. I didn't question it because my step-son said it felt more comfortable, and because his instructor is an associate scout for a National league team who has a son that's a lefty pitcher (as mine is) in an American league system. Figuring he knows a heck of a lot more about pitching than I do. Duh!
Anyway, I'm interested in your opinion. By the way, 3 Amigos, if it's not appropriate or you'd rather not have me ask a question like this in the thread let me know, I'll be glad to submit to protocol.
Great stuff Jason, its just unreal that he is that together as a person and that talented as a player at the age of 17.
Also having read all the comments I just wanted to add a post to call attention to Blair's fixation on the size of another man's hands. You know what they say about....
Nevermind.
Jason,
What is the advantage of the knuckle/spike curveball grip? Are the arm mechanics the same between the two types?
Some people think the spike curve grip gives the ball a better rotation and thus better movement. I'll ask Trip Somers from the great pitching site www.texasleaguers.com to stop by and weigh in with his thoughts about the pitch.
Can the Rangers not set up some kind of tutoring for the guys that cannot speak English. Seems it would help in transition. If he is only learning from some guys on team, I don't think the organization is doing enough to make a better transition for the guys.
Sean: The organization has people in place to help the foreign born players transition to playing in the United States. They set up English classes and encourage the players to interact with other players from different backgrounds.
Honestly, I think the Rangers do an excellent job of assisting in the assimilation process. It might not appear as such, based on some of the comments Perez made regarding his loneliness/isolation, but trust me when I say that the Rangers are very sensitive to the issues most of the LA kids deal with and are very proactive as a result.
Rob M: There's inherently no difference in arm action between the two pitches. Some pitchers find it easier to throw one over the other because of their "natural" arm action. Arm slot, hand size, finger length, and finger pressure all play a roll in why one of those grips might work better than the other for any given pitcher.
Will Carroll: The execution of the change up is far more important than the grip. In Perez's grip, one might jump out and say he's not choking it enough or that his middle finger is too close to the middle of the ball; however, we really don't have a clue as to where his change needs improvement. Is it control? Is it velocity? Does it work in side sessions but inconsistently in game action? Judging a pitch's effectiveness based on its grip is silly.
Trip: Comment understood. I don't know his arm action and was only commenting on the grip as presented here. There's obviously much more to it, but if there's something easy enough to fix, why not fix it?
A. Stephens: As Trip notes, he's not really choking it and with hands as big as his, I like to see that circle much bigger and more circular so that it can get the proper action out of the hand when pair with the proper arm action. It's a very easy adjustment and my guess is he "half-a**ed it" for the photo.
I like the circle change as a pitch when the pitcher's hand is big enough. I tend to teach a palmball since it's very easy to pick up and to feel, then adjust to a modified or circle depending on the pitcher. I also teach a variant of the spike curve developed by Ted Power. The tough part of controlling that pitch is not putting pressure on the ball with the index finger. My variant likely doesn't work at higher levels bc it tips.
Oh and Jason - no idea if the spike is common with the Rangers. I doubt it. I meant only that it's not uncommon overall and somewhere, there was a big shift towards teaching it. There seem to be a lot more HS and college pitchers Ive seen over the past couple years using it and figure that will trickle up.
Will Carroll,
Thank you for the response. The hand size on a ten year old, at the time, is why I figured the pitch felt more comfortable to my stepson. Certainly at that age we weren't getting around the ball as much nor able to get consistency with the circle change. I wanted to make sure you weren't saying there was actually something wrong with that particular grip that I might need to know about. Thanks for taking the time.
A. Stephens
Jason, do you know if such a setup was in place during the JuanDom era? I know it's been long-rumored that the organization didn't do enough to make him feel comfortable, but as far as I know that's all hearsay.
Joey: The Rangers have always had a basic system in place to assist in the assimilation process, but nothing like they currently have. The Rangers have emerged as quite a force in the LA markets and as a result they have also enhanced their sensitivity to the issues those players face once they arrive in the United States.
That said, most minor leaguers, whether they were born in Dallas or in Caracas, experience some degree of loneliness or homesickness. It happens. Most are able to fight through it, while others like Wilmer Font, for example, let it affect their ability to get on the field.
I think Dominguez had his own demons and I'm not sure what role the organization played in attempting to remedy those emotional issues. I'm sure they felt like they did everything they could and I'm sure he feels like they didn't do enough. Honestly, I have no clue where the truth lies. Some players can handle it better than others.
Kaiser said:
"Also having read all the comments I just wanted to add a post to call attention to Blair's fixation on the size of another man's hands. You know what they say about...."
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At least I didn't say this:
"In Perez's grip, one might jump out and say he's not choking it enough."
Just kidding trip, thanks for the great information.
perez es un gran prospecto y deberia estar en grandes ligas el proximo año, vamooooooosssssss