Rangers Quote Of The Week (12/21)
Will the Texas Rangers push left-hander C.J. Wilson (pictured) harder as a set-up reliever? - maddog's playground/Flickr.comWith John temporarily out of pocket, this week's quote of choice -- which evidently was not recorded in the last seven days, but nevertheless has not, to the best of my knowledge, been explicitly discussed -- comes courtesy of the USA Today's Bob Nightengale:
"I'd like to have the setup guy at least be able to get through the lineup once. If he pitched three innings and handed it off to the closer, then he could have two days off. But you'd have two other guys who could handle it the next two days."
Texas Rangers team president Nolan Ryan detailing the radical new pitching philosophy he so fiercely yearns to instill from top to bottom in the organization moving forward, an edict which is in no uncertain terms applicable to both starters and relievers.
Much of the material present in Nightengale's Rangers-centric piece concerns the same familiar intricacies in Ryan's plan that have been tirelessly debated again and again (i.e. mandated sprinting drills and live batting practice), but in addition to the above quote, Ryan also believes that Texas, ideally, should not have to employ more than three pitchers in a single game -- an ambitious proposition, to be certain.
Assuming that Frank Francisco locks in the closing gig come spring training (which seems probable, at the very least), and assuming that Texas doesn't acquire a top-flight set-up reliever via trade or free agency before Opening Day, the Rangers will very likely charge the hard-throwing troika of Joaquin Benoit, Warner Madrigal and token southpaw C.J. Wilson with the arduous task of successfully preserving leads handed over by the starting corps and relaying them to Francisco intact, which also encompasses keeping the Rangers within striking distance in close late-inning battles.
Demanding three innings of your set-up man and actively seeking to limit the number of pitchers you use in a single game is a fundamentally sound tactic (after all, the more pitchers you use in a given contest, the better the chances are that one of them will be lacking their best stuff and will consequently be battered around), albeit one that might well prove challenging to implement in reality. Although injuries presumably played a major role in the 2008 struggles of Benoit and Wilson on the bump, what cannot be ignored with either ex-starter is the dearth of recent utilization in a multi-inning role such as the one envisioned by Ryan.
Benoit, in particular, has logged more than three outs in just 12 of his last 67 major league appearances (or 17.9 percent) dating back to August 12th, 2007, while Wilson has done so in just one of his last 66 major league appearances (or 1.5 percent) dating back to August 15th, 2007. That isn't to say either is incapable of going two or three innings if the situation requires it; rather, it merely implies a lack of recent orientation with such demands. Manager Ron Washington wields far more power over his relievers' workloads than his relievers themselves, who are rarely afforded the opportunity to build off a brilliant first inning of work before being promptly lifted from the game.
Both Benoit and Wilson were also particularly susceptible to so-called "long innings" -- or innings with 20 or more pitches thrown -- in 2008, though it can be convincingly argued that the inordinately high frequency of those was largely the by-product of ineffectiveness in the first place. It remains to be seen, however, whether such a unique set-up would be more efficient in practice than the classic designation of a single "go-to" set-up man and a single closer, or whether such a set-up would ultimately work with the personnel the Rangers have on hand.
For what it's worth, one reported player of interest to Texas earlier in the off-season -- free-agent closer Brian Fuentes -- that could have conceivably strengthened the Rangers' relief corps may now become the Angels' number-one priority in the wake of their apparent withdrawal from the Mark Teixeira sweepstakes. ESPN.com's Buster Olney speculated on Sunday that the 33-year-old left-hander could soon emerge as one of the "great bargains of the winter shopping season," as he "may eventually have to consider a three-year deal in the $15-18 million range."
We'll know soon enough whether or not the Angels will get their man -- and, for that matter, if Nolan will get his way.




Joey Matschulat
Reader Comments (7)
Weird stuff. Sometimes I wonder if Nolan understands that most people aren't blessed with durable arms of steel like he had. I think his 3 inning setup man idea is possible in theory, but you have to have the right kind of guys who can pull that off. Texas doesn't. You have to have relievers who will throw strikes and go after hitters rather than walking around guys you don't feel like facing & then gambling with the bases full. That has to stop. But right now who could give you 3 good innings like that? Millwood, Rupe, and maybe Feldman. Mendoza & Nippert - maybe. If maybe but. So I don't think this new philosophy will amount to anything much if the present group of guys remains the same. And that's my 2 cents.
The first thought that came to my mind was that if the starters on, then he's staying out. Asking for four innings of relief and not get knocked around can happen, but almost never happens game to game on a consistent basis. It's a plan you would like to implement, but because people do get knocked around and bad outings are going to happen executing the plan will be difficult to say the least with any staff.
Maybe this is simply a plan to protect our most dynamic arms: Benoit, Wilson, and Francisco. I like the idea of a guy like Nippert being a long term solution as a long reliever as well as Mendoza. Not sure either is capable of getting through the lineup several times, and they aren't consistently in the strike zone enough to be short inning guys either, so unless both improve their command or their number of pitches, then I don't see why they couldn't go though a lineup once.
Something else that occurs to me...how much of a say should the manager, pitching coach and bullpen coach (or the actual on-the-field personnel) have in how the Rangers' relievers are deployed? Ryan can throw down this edict and perhaps even mandate that the coaches adhere to his general philosophy, but there's an immense difference between Ryan calling together the coaching staff during a mid-February workout on a sun-baked practice field and urging his subordinates to squeeze as many outs as possible out of the late-inning hurlers, and actually being faced with a delicate late-game situation requiring an intelligent managerial decision in front of a huge home crowd in early April.
For that matter, how much of a say should the general manager have in this?
I believe this is (part of) the same Nolan quote I was referring to (paraphrasing) back on Dec. 10th, re Boof Bonser at the time:
"...even if he can't crack the rotation, he gives us another candidate to try out all year as one of 5 or 6 "long men," (an idea Nolan seems amenable to, saying "if a reliever has success one time through the line-up, why not stick with him?")
I really see the benefit of such a "philosophy" being ephemeral but vital in 2009 for the sake of 2010, but I agree with JD $, that it depends on our "bullpen" (i.e. our proving ground for 2010's rotation) being filled with "long-man/potential starter types." Other than one or two "closers" everyone else can be traded away or kept or acquired with an eye toward our 2010 rotation.
I'm thinking of high-risk/potential high reward guys, such as McCarthy, Nippert, even Diamond and Moscoso (and Daniel Cabrera, though it's too late for him) as targets: Yusmeiro Petit (Ariz), R. Liz (Balt),... guys who will be either aces or bust. If we use our bullpen to find one or two "diamonds in the rough" by the time we get a decent offer for Padilla and Millwood, we can secure one of these "diamonds" a spot in our '09 rotation hopefully by Spring's end, but at least by the All-Star break, and the other a spot by 2010.
So that means making room for them by trading Benoit, and not signing traditional "relievers."
Fuentes at 5-6 per year is a good to very good deal and I hope the Rangers pursue him.
Agreed, Todd -- I think. $5 million/year is a far less absurd bounty than the $12 million/year he was demanding previously...