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Monday
Oct062008

Tuesday Morning Rangers Notes: October Thunder Edition

While the first leg of an exhaustive three-day collaboration between the Texas Rangers' front office (a group which comprised the likes of club president Nolan Ryan, general manager Jon Daniels and assistant general manager Thad Levine) and the scouting department (headed by director Ron Hopkins and his vast army of personnel) drew to a close in Surprise, Arizona on Monday, a bit of unexpected excitement broke out in my neck of the woods.

Really, really unexpected excitement, particularly given that the month of October is already a week old:

Apologies for having to cut this one short.

? In his latest MLB.com mailbag, T.R. Sullivan appears to intimate that Matt Harrison has procured the inside track on the third starter spot going into next spring, with Scott Feldman and Brandon McCarthy currently projecting as the fourth and fifth starters, respectively, and a smorgasbord of less certain arms (including Dustin Nippert, Kason Gabbard, Luis Mendoza, Eric Hurley and even Thomas Diamond) lining up at the rear.

Should we make anything out of the assertion that McCarthy might have to fight tooth and nail to retain his job? Probably not. If Brandon's completely healthy and mechanically sound come next spring, it's hard to imagine him failing to outright beat the field - and if he's not, he should probably be in Oklahoma City working out the kinks anyway.

? According to FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal, the Rangers made a "big offer" for Kansas City Royals right-hander Zach Greinke before the July 31st non-waiver trade deadline that was obviously rebuffed.

? Taylor Teagarden (.319/.396/.809 and six home runs in 53 plate appearances) represented one of the three finalists for the American League's September Rookie of the Month Award alongside Boston Red Sox outfielder Jacoby Ellsbury, but failed to top the flawless 4-0 record and 2.63 ERA compiled over 24 innings by Cleveland Indians southpaw Scott Lewis.

On a related note, Callis's composite USA Baseball top prospects list (encompassing both Olympic team members and draft-eligible junior team members) features Teagarden in the six-hole, one slot ahead of Georgia prep outfielder Donovan Tate - the "top prep position prospect for 2009."

? Aside from some additional ruminations on the still-polarizing Danks/McCarthy swap (which Lone Star Ball's Adam Morris elaborated upon in great detail on Monday), ESPN.com's Keith Law issued this assessment of left-handed phenom Derek Holland:

Of course, anyone bemoaning the lack of a good young lefty in Texas' rotation won't have long to complain, with Derek Holland banging on the door. Holland wasn't even on Texas' radar until they saw him at the junior college World Series a few weeks before the 2006 draft, leading them to take him in the 25th round as a draft-and-follow.

His velocity was gradually improving, from 86-90 mph before they drafted him to 88-91 the following spring to 90-93 after they signed him in May of 2007 and sent him to Spokane. This year, he started touching 95 in A-ball, then after his promotion to Double-A his fastball was sitting 93-95 and touching 98, retaining its natural bore and cut. (At this rate, he'll be throwing 107-110 by 2012.)

Holland is more than just velocity, showing outstanding fastball command, working to both sides of the plate, and boasting an above-average changeup; his slider is still a work in progress, but has made substantial strides since he signed with Texas.

Holland is so polished and has been so dominant that he might appear in the majors by mid-2009, but that just puts him in the vanguard of the strongest and deepest crop of pitching prospects of any organization in the game, something that is to the credit not just of general manager Jon Daniels but his amateur and international scouting staffs as well.

? Jon Paul Morosi of the Detroit Free Press wrote on Sunday that the Tigers could pursue one of the Rangers' three shortstops (Elvis Andrus, Joaquin Arias or Michael Young) as a replacement for the departing Edgar Renteria, who hit just .270/.317/.382 in 547 plate appearances for Detroit in 2008 and will not have his $11 million club option for 2009 picked up. Arias has evidently invoked some interest on the part of the Tigers in the past.

An unsettled backstop situation in the Motor City, triggered primarily by the trade deadline departure of Ivan Rodriguez, might also compel general manager Dave Dombrowski to inquire on one of the Rangers' four prized catchers. I'm not entirely certain what a package consisting of Arias, Gerald Laird and an additional piece or two could fetch, but Jeremy Bonderman and Zach Miner are both sort of intriguing if you squint and tilt your head to the side a bit.

And, of course, the quality of the return is proportional to the quality of the inputs. Well, most of the time anyway.

? Industry publication Baseball America bestowed upon the Double-A Frisco RoughRiders the prestigious title of Minor League Team of the Year on Monday. According to Jamey Newberg, the Spokane Indians were deemed the short-season A-ball team of the year, and skipper Tim Hulett was recognized as the short-season A-ball manager of the year.

? Baseball America's Matt Eddy reports that minor leaguers Joselo Diaz, Ryan Roberts and Jason Ellison have been granted free agency.

? And finally, when the Surprise Rafters engage the Peoria Javelinas in Arizona Fall League action at 1:35 p.m. CST this afternoon, they'll be reinforced by Fall Instructional League participant Justin Smoak - a late "taxi squad" addition that will initially be eligible to play exclusively on Wednesdays and Saturdays.

Time for Round Two of October Thunder.

Reader Comments (5)

I think Pudge has already left the Tigers. He was traded to NY last July. If Holland is a Ranger next year, it means another long summer in Arlington.
October 7, 2008 at 5:02 PM | Unregistered CommenterRob
Rob - I've gotta get more sleep. I don't know why I thought Pudge was still a Tiger...I don't think it's completely sunk in yet that he was a Yankee down the stretch. Thanks for the heads-up - I changed a few words around to make it more understandable.





The basic point still stands, however - the Tigers still desperately need a catcher. Brandon Inge is a pumpkin (and a pumpkin moving back to the hot corner after a pretty lackluster '08 campaign, at that), and I don't know of any other notable ML talent at that position coming up through their organizational ranks.





I have my doubts with regard to Arias's value (not really wholeheartedly buying into the late-season .291/.345/.409 run), but that's the sort of September surge that could really hold sway over a GM that has evidently coveted Arias for a while now, and if he can be converted into something of greater value (particularly on the pitching side), that's something you obviously have to do.





Holland, by the way, celebrates his 22nd birthday in two days. His secondary pitches require some additional refinement, but if Holland broke down the door to the majors and earned a rotation spot mid-summer, there wouldn't be anything innately wrong with that in my eyes.





If, on the other hand, he was proving to be less than completely ready for The Show at Frisco or OKC (regression in his command/control, the league catching up to him, etc.) and he was forced to the big leagues prematurely due to injuries/trades/etc., then that's something I'd probably have a problem with.





The point is to let Holland advance at his own pace, and if that pace turns out to be faster than any of us thought, then that's just fine and dandy. But don't pull another Tommy Hunter with a premium long-term asset like Holland in '09, because that's the kind of short-sighted, reckless roster management that put this organization in dire straits to begin with.
October 7, 2008 at 6:55 PM | Unregistered CommenterJoey Matschulat
Bailey for Laird? I think that's a deal I do every day of the week...there are lingering questions about where exactly Homer's head is, but he's such an immensely talented pitcher (and a young, cost-controlled one that should still have six years of club control left to his credit) that you would have an obligation to the fans to take a shot and see if you can employ the influences of Hawkins/Adair/Ryan and get him back on track as an ace-caliber prospect.





Detroit's pitching prospects...well, to tell you the truth, there's not really much there beyond Porcello, and the speculation that the Rangers could somehow acquire him in a deal is, to me at least, completely off-base. He's nigh-untouchable.





Just asked Jason about the state of Joaquin's shoulder and he wasn't exactly optimistic. He has value, but that value takes a major hit if his shoulder doesn't return to form.





Regarding Nolasco, I think I was sort of the impetus behind his name getting out there (or one of the central figures in that impetus)...I don't realistically think he's any more attainable than Matt Cain or Zach Greinke in the winter trade market (and never really have), but what makes him so intriguing is the filthy stuff (which now includes a cutter, a mid-season addition that purportedly also propelled John Danks into the upper echelon), the ridiculous BB/K ratio and his arbitration situation, which is a major consideration when the Florida Marlins are in the conversation.





And FWIW, Galloway got absolutely shredded.
October 7, 2008 at 7:08 PM | Unregistered CommenterJoey Matschulat
I like Arias... particularly I like the idea of Arias at 2B and Elvis at SS... wow! Nothing goes thru the middle of THAT infield!





Also, have you read the "Gonna be here a while" entry on the Newberg Report, yet? Awesome.
October 8, 2008 at 5:48 AM | Unregistered CommenterEd Looney
If Cincy were to offer Homer Bailey for Gerry Laird, straight up - would you take it? Hell yes I would. I think that the market for Laird and Salty will be bigger and better than it seems now, as there are about 5 teams who really need an upgrade at that position. I guess the issue is making the right deal. Does Detroit have any pitching prospects that they would be willing to trade? And are any of them better than Homer Bailey?





Regarding Arias, it seems like his arm weakness is a big question mark. Why does it take over a year to rehab & gain full strength? You could tell even at the end of the season that he is pretty much incapable of finishing a double play with a hard throw to first from the middle of the infield - and that's not good. He pretty much has to play 2B until this problem is ameliorated. But his hitting was fine - isn't he known as an aggressive, slashing hitter? Good speed, too. I think there may be a few teams who are willing to gamble that his arm'll get stronger, and who will be willing to trade some pitching for him.





By the way, I've heard nothing anywhere to suggest that Florida would even think of trading Nolasco this off-season, at least not for anything less than a bundle of premium prospects. I think that was just a fabrication of the DFW media/blogosphere.
October 8, 2008 at 6:42 AM | Unregistered CommenterJDolla$
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