What is your opinion of the A.J. Pierzynski signing?
MJH on accountability
It pains me to say this and I know I am going to get eaten alive. Also I should say that I truly hope I am wrong but it does not look that way.
Patiently I have been waiting for the Rangers to pop out of their funk. Obviously that has not happened. The team has collapsed. Yesterday the Rangers scored 5 runs in a losing effort in getting swept by the Pirates. This is the first time they have scored 5 runs since August 28 against the Mariners. Think about that for a second....That means that against the Twins we didn't score five, against Angels we didn't score five, and against the A's we didn't score 5. Meanwhile we have lost the series against those three teams prior to getting swept by the Pirates. In that time our pitching and fielding, the strength of our team, has given upscores of 5, 11, 6, 8, 5, and 7. The lone bright spot in all of that mess was Darvish 1 run gem on Monday night, which we still managed to lose because we couldn't plate one measley runner!!I am not blaming anyone here except the players, the stars of this franchise...Garza, Andrus, Beltre, Murphy, Holland, Darvish, Martin, and Moreland. When they started this stretch they were 1.5 games up in the West. Then they dropped to 4 games up in the WC. Now they are 2.5 games up in the WC and falling fast. If something doesn't change, this collapse will make last years failure look inviting.
Sorry Charlie. I know it looks and feels bad--but the Rangers were in all three games vs a very good Pittsburgh team.They have not quit.We will know a lot more Sunday evening!Remember on July 29th they were 6 games behind the A's?
4 games up (in the lose column) to the yanks for WC spot #2..........hopefully we can win the play-in game (if we make it)
fuck me.....*loss column
Terry C, I appreciate the rosy picture you're trying to paint. It reminds me of what we're hearing from the Ranger players and manager after each recent loss. Honestly, Pittsburgh handled TX fairly easily. Every game, they put the Rangers in a hole early and never let up. Rangers were able to claw back to make the final scores respectable, but nothing more.
I would really like to see someone on this team call the rest of them out in public and admit they're toast if they don't start playing winning baseball rather than trying to make it sound like they are when they obviously aren't.
The Rangers are 46-20 against their own division, and a poor 35-44 against every other team played. That percentage for the rest of the MLB is .443. That would put you in last place in the AL East and NL West and 4th in nearly all others. The Rangers have 17 games left and 10 against the AL West. They will need at least 8 wins, possibly even 9, to get even into the playoffs. It is not over, but every loss is a nail in the coffin of a mediocre season. And how a far will they go with such performances against a non-AL West team. So it is not yet over, but it is looking very bleak. To make even an uglier picture, the players who have been there near the whole season, are stumbling bad at the crucial time: Beltre, and the pitching, especially the starters. However, the arm are still good, and a starter is as good as their next start. Holland and Darvish will]could start as many as 8 of the last 17, so the playoffs are in their arms. You can not fault a starter who gives up but one run and still loses. The Rangers season will turn for the best or worse against this coming 3 game set against Oakland. Win 2 out of 3, and the doldrums the ship is in may find a strongly Westerly, take all 3 and they are back on course: be swept and the ship is sunk.
I do not fault Darvish for giving up one in 7 innings. I fault our offense more than anything else for the downfall of 13. How many times recently have we seen the winning or tie run at third with Beltre up to bat only result in the David Murphy type week groundball to second or the Kinsler style strike out?
I would love to sit here and say that this team will go on a hot streak and win the WS. But in reality I just don't see it. I really do not see the second WC in their future. There is no offense on this team right now. Evan Grant said on twitter the other day, and I agree, that when your DH, 1B, and COF are battign 6, 7, and 8 in your lineup you have a problem. When your leading RBI guy for the last two weeks is a career .260 hitter with less than 10 HR in his career you have a problem. I have read posts on other boards, seen twitter responses from fans and columnists alike that tout the Rangers building on speed, pitching and defense since Josh walked away from Texas and Cruz was suspended. The problem with that is someone still has to knock the guy in from third base, assuming he gets that far!! Well too many times I have seen that theory fail with our best hitter at the plate. Speed is great, I love watching Martin and Elvis run wild on the bases. But someone still has to hit the ball, eventually and no one is doing that when it counts lately.
Then let's talk about Holland...he has not been the same since he took the line drive off his arm against the Astros. He is pitching scared, which is no way to challenge big league hitters. For that matter the whole rotation is pitching scared, scared to give up more than one or two runs because we can't score more than one or two runs regularly. Do you realize that before Wednesday's loss the last time we scored more than 4 runs in a game was August 28?
Then we can talk about how poor our record is against non divisional foes. Basically anyone not names Seattle, Anaheim, or Houston we are a less than .500 team. Now does nayone want to got to Boston, Baltimore, Tampa, Cleveland (we all remember last time in Cleveland right?), or Kansas City to play a one game do or die playoff?
Basically, what I am saying is if this team does not pull their head out of their posterior and start hitting the damn ball this season is done.
Sorry for the doom and gloom, but I had to vent some frustration. And I think I was incorrect in saying on Aug 28 we played the Astros when it was really the M's.
@ sandwisch--you're welcome. Might as well stay positive while i can. There will be plenty of time for bitching later if im wrong.Seems to me that Darvish pitched a gem and a timely base hit could have tied or walked off the other two games.
It's time! Let the bitching begin.
You ... have ... to ... be ... kidding ... me ...!
It's over. The team is tired. The offense is getting worse (Thanks, Dave Magadan!). No patience at the plate. This team is not a scary offense anymore and they seem to be going through the motions.
2014 will be no better as the free agent market is not strong.
Thanks a lot Jon Daniels. Your inaction this past off season and horrid trades have sunk the Rangers until at least 2016. Then the players will hardly be recognized. Catching will be done by Alfaro, Deglin and Telis. Infield will consist of Abreu [ no choice but to go heavy after him as a needed bat], Guzman ; Odor, Sardinas Demeritte and Profar up the middle and Gallo at third. An outfield of: Beltre, Beras, Brinson, Cone, Martin, Mazara and Williams. Stanton and/ or Taveras may even be traded for. The pitching staff will be more recognizable: Darvish, Feliz, Harrison, Holland, Jackson, Perez, Tepesch, may even go after Tanaka as starters; with relievers in : Font, Mendez, Ogando, Ross, Scheppers, Soria and West. A few young guns like a Diplan, Martinez, Payano or another Perez may have a breakout. But that is 2016, this is 2013, so if it is a dynasty it will go into its hard times. Meanwhile look for Daniels to do little, even not signing even his own free agents after making 4 for 1 trades for pitchers that offer a mediocre 12 to 14 start, and then gone somewhere else to have success [aka Koji].
''I'm not frustrated with the way we played,'' manager Ron Washington, putting emphasis on how he felt about the Oakland series. ''In the first game, we had chances. The second day, we had chances in a 1-0 ball game. ... It wasn't like they came in and dominated and we didn't have chances.''
And therein lies the problem. To parapharase, "We're playing good baseball. Good enough to lose. Let's keep it going."
This team is too easily contented.
The ship has sunk. It is not over, a sweep of the Rays will go a long way to making the playoffs. But I would favor the Angels making 500 ball before I can see the Rangers even making the playoffs. Favorites right now are the Rays and Indians. The Rangers- Rays 4 game set will be a decider if either can go 3 and 1 or sweep. The Indians have 13 games left: 3 AT KC, 4 at home against Houston, followed by a 2 game set against the WhiteSox, and finishing with 4 at Minnesota. Not a hard schedule by any means, so it is their's to run away with the #1 wild card seating. As for the Rangers, their season was set up by the inactivity of their GM and his repeatedly give away July trades of talent for quick and extremely short term solutions that have been utter failures. There is also little going forward to change the immediate future until at least 2016 without a major investments in free agents at a time where there are few difference makers beyond Robinson Cano, Jose Abreu and Masuhiro Tanaka- all highly unlikely to come to the Rangers. So look for 2014 and 2015 to be good if they can play 500 ball, and 2013 will be the last of the winning season unless major changes are made, especially at the very top. The Hope of the Future is the 2013 Hickory lineup, immense talent but also immense holes in their individual game. Even Newberg is beginning to sing this same dirge. Not a happy picture or immediate future. At least the Rangers do have a plethora of solid arms, and at least 7 or 8 quality starters.
@Lee of Arlington, JD didn't do much in the offseason and that was worrisome but the Rangers were in greart shape going into September and he did trade for Garza who by everyone's opinion was easily the best starting pitcher on the trade market at the time. You can't fault JD for how bad he's been since he's been here. He also made a great trade for Rios who has been a very nice pickup which the Rangers got for peanuts essentially. This malaze by the Rangers is all on the players. Wash has shuffled the lineup a 100 times and given all his regulars plenty of rest (unlike last year) so there's really no excuse for their poor play.
Wtf is "malaze"??
JD--you call it corn. We call it malaze.
i call you an idiot
The word is malaise, consort a spell check instead of wasting a post. Jeremy, I do like the Rios trade for Leury Garcia. The White Sox even like little Leury. Garcia needs to be a starting short stop so his defensive range and arm can be fully appreciated. In that he is superior to Andrus and Profar. The White Sox feel he will even been decent on offense. However, Rios is a 5-tool talent who makes it look so easy. He will be starting in right field next season and can be a 30/30 player, may be even Kinsler can return to that level. Neither will without greater production out of the left fielder, first baseman and DH for next season. Both worry another team's pitcher but does not scare them like Beltre, and before that Hamilton and Napoli and a much younger Michael Young. or even a hot Nelson Cruz So one can look at it, that the Rangers are 2 or 3 top run producers away from a offensive power house, Cruz could even be one of those three. But at this time, the Rangers are solid in role players but not as an offense juggernaut. Garza, I thought would have performed better. From the beginning, I felt like the Rangers way over paid. Olt and a AAA pitcher [ Grimm or Ramirez] was enough. Speaking of Grimm, he could have performed as well as Garza has for the Rangers. That is not saying much about Matt. The sad fact is, to justify the trade the Rangers are now compelled to sign Garza to a 3 or 4 year deal. Thirteen starts with a near 5. era does not even justify a Grimm or Ramirez, much less a tossed in Olt. AND CJ Edwards was a colossal blunder. Remember that name, he will be starring for the Cubs by the end of the 2014 season. If the Rangers remain in their free fall, and there is little indication that will change, look for BIG shakeups for 2014 starting with the GM and Manager. The sad fact in pro sports, a team that is suppose to make the playoffs and collapses changes at the top much more often then a bottom dweller that was not given much of a chance from the first pitch, face off , kickoff or jump ball.
Doing a poll on the Garza trade---I'll put you down as undecided!Leury is better than Andrus or Profar- ??-I think i'll write that one down and revisit it in a couple of years.
And you were not impressed with the Cliff Lee or Texeria trades????How bout that Herschel Walker trade?
kins 30/30---garcia better than elvis. tells you all you need to know about leah. no one on here knows LESS than leah N O O N E
tERRY, on Garcia, that is on defense. He has more range, a better arm, and speed that Andrus or Profar can match. He may never be given the opportunity, but the way the White Sox are talking he just may be given that chance. So lets check back in a few years. Jd, you moron, look up Ian's 2009 and 2011 seasons and make that utterly stupid statement thatonly you can make. And unles you are 12, and we all know thatis youyr mental age, that was only two seasons ago. But if you ever read anything closely, you will read that I also stated it would take an immensely more productive dh, first baseman and left fielder then what they have now. Rios has yet to do 30/30, with a high of 25 hrs last season. So before you make your idiotic stements JDingleberry do your homework first. Now that it is 2013 Terry, no, not really. Lee for all his talent and knowledge of pitching [ and that was his real value for the Rangers], he had a losing record for the Rangers with an era near 4 [hardly ACE numbers] and totally bombed out in the World Series against Lincecum [who in the crucial first game the Rangers did hit hard] and was hardly any better the second time around. As for the Teixeira trade, let's examine it closely for the Rangers for 2013. Remembering Ron Mahay also went to the Braves and did okay, the Rangers key acquisition was Saltalamacchia, when they could have pushed for McCann, bombed out and wad years ago shipped to the Red Sox, Beau Jones never made it out of AAA, Harrison pitched to a 0 and 2 record on an era of 8.44, before going on IR in mid-April, those 2 games may prove the difference in making it to the playoffs, Feliz never pitched until a month ago and then more in mop ups, though should have been put in way ahead of Ortiz. It was like Washington was giving the game away, though Profar's failure to turn a simple double play did not help the cause, or Holland grooving a hit me slider a few pitches later. That leaves Andrus and his career 18 homers in 2861 at bats. I thought he would improve on run production and power by now. He has looked a little more better the last few weeks, so hopefully a page has turned. I am getting a tired of comparing him to the Great Mario Mendoza, yes that Mendoza who invented the Mendoza line. So to sum up for 2013 in the Teix trade, all was left was Elvis and Engel for a 27 year old first baseman when traded had averaged 38 homers with 122 rbi on a non contending team. So to answer your question, as much as has been made and talked about those two trades, the numbers do not back it up, and for 2013 little remains. Had Salty been able to throw the ball even back to his own pitcher in 2010, Cliff Lee had been resigned, and Feliz & Harrison healthy, for 2013 may give a differnet answer.
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