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Please, let's have 4 more pages of inane drivel about a midget pillow biter.
pay not attention to JD. I wish Champ would come with some more good Hack Wilson stories. I feel interested in his discussion.
Four More Pages !!! Four More Pages !!!
I will have more Hack Wilson coming soon to please you all =)
that's because you're a fucking idiot
Champ's topic on Hack Wilson and letting us know about the legend is pure brilliance.
Hack Wilson had a 8.3 WAR which is amazing in a regular season in 1930. I think we should keep this conversation up.
Golly I hope so.
Thanks eric. I'm not much of a WAR advocate but will acknowledge Hack's 8.4 is absolutely astounding.
When is Champ coming with something new with Hack, Good Stuff
Right when he was getting good at it. Maybe Champ hibernates during the summer.
1924 [Part One]
Hack and Virginia Wilson lived in a small white house in Martinsburg, West Virginia. That Winter John McGraw traded Casey Stengel and Bill Cunningham to the Boston Braves for centerfielder Billy Southworth. Southworth hit .319 in the 1923 season with the Boston Braves. Hack would have to compete with Southworth for the centerfielder job at the Polo Grounds in Manhattan for John McGraw's New York Giants. Billy Southworth was poor defensively he led the National League in errors for outfielders. He had a noodle arm much comparable to the Cubs Julio Borbon in terms of not having much of an arm at all. But John McGraw liked Billy Southworth's hitting, baserunning, bunting and hit and run skills. He had the elements key to John McGraw's small ball approach. In March Hack Wilson and Bily Southworth would square off to see who would be the regular everyday centerfielder at the Polo Grounds. Spring Training in 1924 for the Giants was in Saratoga, Florida. Hack played a mad, impetuous brand of baseball whenever he was placed in the lineup. He was fast despite his squat figure. He fairly churned the turf on stumpy legs when he full sail after a fly ball. There was no doubting how much power Hack Wilson possessed. However, Hack did not impress Giants manager John McGraw enough to win the centerfield job. When the 1924 season began, Hack was once again sitting on the bench. The bright side of all that was Hack was making $3500 which was more he had made all years before that. The next six weeks would see Hack only getting action as a late inning pinch hitter. On May 5, 1924 Hack started in centerfield. He went 2-4 with two doubles and didn't start again until May 30th (that game went 2-5 with a double). From the beginning the New York Giants had their doubts about the 24 year old top heavy outfielder. They thought him too cumbersome and too awkward to be a major league outfielder. He hit the ball hard and ran very well with his tiny legs. It seemed that the organization found it hard to overlook that he was dwarf like. In early June of 1924 Billy Southworth would get injured slamming into a wall in the outfield. Hack Wilson would then get the opportunity to play centerfield for John McGraw's New York Giants in the Polo Grounds in Manhattan of New York City. Hack was brash and confident, deep down the 24 year old thought he had the right bat, right arm and right heart to play everyday for the New York Giants. The problem was he had to please manager John McGraw, which would not be an easy task. On June 10, 1924 Hack Wilson won a game with a triple. On the 24th he hit his first major league homerun and on June 27th he had 2 triples in one game. By July 12, 1924 Hack Wilson's average had rose to .373. By the next five days Hack had hit 4 homeruns in 5 games. Things were beginning to look up for the rookie who had begun the year on John McGraw's bench. On July 13, 1924 things would go bad for the young rookie from Martinsburg, West Virginia. Hack sprinted after a ball only to catch his cleats into the Polo Grounds turf, slamming Hack Wilson to the ground. Four of his teammates had to carry the 24 year old rookie off the field to a standing ovation by the Manhattan faithful. Hack's heart sunk as he knew it would be a little while before he was playing the ole ballgame again that season.
Good stuff Champ,Are you going to give me more of 1924 since you said Part one?
Do you ever get the feeling that Champ would blow Hack Wilson?
Sorry JD... This topic is brilliant!
no it isn't. its ignorant and you know it.
Well Rollie and JD I will have some more of Hack Wilson's 1924 season coming up later this week. So stay tuned for as Rollie calls it "brilliant" Hack Wilson posts
I've been reading you Champ. Definitely you have an amazing writing talent.
Champ: Take your KISSFEST somewhere else.
1924 [Part Two]
When Hack did come back on the field in 1924 he would play fiercely. In his mind he had to make up for lost playing time and lost opportunity. That's certainly not the mindset of a player coming off of an injury especially in today's baseball. Add the fact that John McGraw made rookies earn their spot so lagging off and not playing hard was not an option with young players if they wanted to get playing time. Hack Wilson had all the reason in the world to make it or break it. The faithful of Manhattan were growing fond of this rookie because of his full throttle, win at all costs style of baseball. Then and now New York demands that type of play from their players in all sports. His efforts were not always rewarded and he made mental miscues which are common for rookie players now and then trying to impress their managers. Hack Wilson still had a lot of learning to do to play centerfield. In late August his ankle started bothering young Hack again and he started striking out on curveballs a lot more than he was earlier in the season. He was baffled at curveballs and pitchers took notice of this. National League pitchers realized that breaking balls was the weakness to the young Giants slugger. Hack Wilson needed to learn to hit the curveball or he was going to find himself out of the majors. Hack Wilson wen 0-16 at one point and his average dropped to .319. On September 15, Hack was lifted for a pinch hitter. This was very damaging to Hack Wilson's ego. Hack would return to a vengeance on September 19, 1924 he hit the longest homerun ever hit at the Polo Grounds. The next day he swatted another homerun into the rightfield bleachers this time taking a curveball the other way with strong power to rightfield. This was short lived as he did not hit too many curveballs after that the rest of the season. In 1924 the New York Giants were in a dogfight with the Brooklyn Robins (Brooklyn Dodgers) who had won 15 in a row late in the season threatening the Giants chances of a 4th straight NL pennant. There would be a big pennant series between the New York Giants and the Brooklyn Dodgers at Ebbets Field with a few games left in the season. Hack would be a major figure in this game and that's where we will go in our next post. The 1924 NL pennant finale [to be continued...]
Hack Wilson greatest Cub of all time? I know you guys would say Ernie Banks but he never won a pennant. Never sniffed the postseason. Hack had 191 RBI which should be somewhere where everyone could see it at Wrigley Field. But I don't really know how Hack got to the Cubs so I want to find out more from Champ.
Ernie Banks or Sammy Sosa might be the best two players in Cubs franchise history. I believe that Hack Wilson had one of the best individual seasons in Cubs history but in 1930 they made the ball lighter where it was much harder to throw a curveball making balls flatten out more. The 1930 season of Hack Wilson and the 1996 season of Sammy Sosa are the best two individual Cub seasons but I thought Champ was talking about Hack's Giant days because I'm getting the sense from Champ's essays that John McGraw was not a fan of the power game of baseball. It seems that Hack does not appear to be a system fit with the New York Giants. Please do tell more....Good stuff Champ...
Do you have pics of you sevicing him Champ?
I've got more Hack Wilson information coming up about 1924 and then we will get to his years with Cubs. I will keep all you guys entertained with the Hack Wilson information.
Tell us more about the lil feet. You just gotta luv the dwarf stuff.
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