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Pitching Staff:Yu DarvishDerek HollandMatt HarrisonAlexi OgandoMartin Perez
Bullpen:Closer: Joe Nathan (resigned 2 year 16 million w/mutual option for 3rd year @5 million)Setup: Joakim SoriaLong Man: Colby Lewis (resigned 4.5 million w/ 3 million player option)Righties: Tanner Scheppers, Neftali FelizLefties: Robbie Ross, Joseph Ortiz
Catching:John Buck (2 year 20 million w/club option for 10 million)AJ Pierzynski (resigned 6 million w/4 million club option)
DH:Berkman's option vests
Infield:1B: Moreland (signed to 5 year 22 million dollar deal with 6th & 7th year options to take it up to 7yrs 44 million)2B: Jurickson ProfarSS: Elvis Andrus3B: Adrian BeltreUtility: Garcia
Outfield:LF: KinslerRF: Stanton (acquired via offseason trade sending Mike Olt, Luis Sardinas, Justin Grimm, Nick Tepesch, and Cody Buckel)CF: Gentry, Martin (4th outfielder who would take either corner spot in event of injury)4 Corners Guy: Jeff Baker (resigned two year 3.5 million w/club option for 2 million)
Lineup: Elvis, Profar, Berkman, Stanton, Beltre, Kinsler, Moreland, Buck/AJ, Gentry/Martin
(1) I don't think there's any way someone could justify dropping $16 million on Joe Nathan ($4 million more than he's making on his current deal) when he's clearly not the pitcher he was even as recently as last year. His falloff in velocity is concerning. I don't see a scenario where he's on the team in 2014.
(2) Same thing with Colby Lewis. He's not even thrown a pitch this year in the ML. Why pay an additional $2 million-plus for him to be in our bullpen? And don't you think he would rather be a starter elsewhere if that was the case?
(3) That catching situation is just all kinds of wrong.
(4) Why are you trying to give Mitch Moreland a big contract? Dude isn't that good, and he doesn't even hit arbitration until this offseason, I believe. He's one of those guys we will pay a year at a time through arb until someone more talented is ready to take his place.
(5) Keep Cody Buckel out of trade talks. Have you seen his season numbers thus far? Yuck.
Right on Eric. It'll be interesting to see if Moreland can continue his break out. If he proves it's no fluke, over time, he'll get paid. Anyway, Joseph, the fact that you have subtracted Soto from the roster makes your post ok with me.
Well, no say against Joseph as long as each man you have picked would be able to function as part of a team.
Needless to say, baseball is a team sport. I do NOT care who outstands among a team or, individually (in terms of records), in leagues, but DO care which team outstands over others and then who has contributed to the feat as a team member.
Exactly Hiro. Yours is one of the best posts I've seen here. You get it. Baseball is a TEAM sport. It's not boxing, golf, tennis, chess or anything that requires little cooperation or interaction from/with others.
Team endeavors, like marraiges, are one of the few areas in life where 1+1 does not always equal 2. It may equal 1, 3, 4 or zero.
Joseph: Take your meds.
Moreland could be that good. Some guys just mature as hitters later than others. He has 30+ homer power, it's just whether he has the ability to hit consistently over a full season. He strikes me as a pure confidence player. When he's feeling good and confident he can do just what he's been doing with the bat. We'll see if he can keep it up.
Agreed no way Nathan comes back(especially if Felix/soria appear healthy and effective) if we sign a reliever I see it being one of Rodney/madson/chamberlain.In regards to pitching if Lewis is resigned(only if healthy and cheap) ogando goes to the bullpen, personally I think with our front offices love fest for Matt garza if he's healthy I can see 5/60 or the Japanese pitcher who's Lilly to be posted.Can I have briann mccan for 3/48 with a vesting option and chrinos as my backup.No to a Moreland extension if he's productive bring him back otherwise get Reynolds cheap if you can(yes he strikes out a lot but he has a decent obp and a lot of power) or move kinsler to first.There are lots of options for the outfield personally unless Stanton can prove he's healthy forget it.
Let's do a 2019 linuo.
I know your an annoying troll but ok1.brinson cf2.odor 2b3.gallo 3b4.mazarra lf5. Beras rf6.alfaro c7. Guzman(sticking him at 1b even though he's presently an of) 1b8.luis sardinas/ jurickson profar ss9.olt dh
Nathan will be done after this year. He is showing signs of age.
I like the rotation you have there, it's solid. I think you can interchange Perez, Grimm, and Tepesch. One of them should be the 5th starter, leaving at least one as a tradeable asset. I think Grimm is more likely to be traded before 2014.
I agree with @eric about Nathan and Lewis. Nathan will most likely be bought out for $500K rather than paying him $9M. I would imagine Nathan is looking at one-year deals from here on out. Soria should be able to step in to the closer role next season. I'm certain Lewis would prefer to start, somewhere, although I would sure like for him to be able to stick around in Texas. He is the veteran presence needed with the young pitching staff. This offseason is probably the time to think hard about extending Ogando, as he will be arbitration-eligible.
Also agree with @eric about your idea for the catching situation. Don't be fooled by Buck's hot start this year, he's not going to maintain it. May have to stick with re-signing Soto, with Chirinos as the backup.
No need to extend Moreland yet. Let's see if he continues to hit all year as he has lately. He won't be too expensive next year with arbitration, so maybe with 2 years of positive production, an extension is warranted. I expect Berkman will be gone after this year as well. Re-sign Cruz, move him to DH, and put Kinsler in LF? Something has to be done with Kinsler with Profar in the mix, unless Profar is traded. I'd like to see Choo signed for RF. Ellsbury is an attractive option for CF, but his injury history and his price makes him less attractive.
I know, everyone wants Stanton. I just don't believe he's going to be traded this season or offseason. At least, not to Texas, unless Profar is included in the trade.
Then include Profar. NEXT
You have several guys in there that you want to re-sign, even if only for a year or 2, on the basis of having seen a month of play. We need substantially more time to see if their current performance is sustainable (read: it isn't until proven otherwise).
Pesonally, I see AJ back with Chirinos as the back up. Perez/Tepesch will be the #5 starter. Grimm may be traded for a bullpen piece. I would love to see Choo signed in free agency.
The rotation is pretty solid. I do not see Ogando back in the pen unless his arm falls apart at some point.
As far as the pen Feliz or Scheppers will be the set up guy, Soria is the closer, Ross and ortiz are your lefties of course and the loser of Scheppers/Feliz stays in the rightie part of the pen with a free agent bargain guy.
I can see Cruz back as either DH or platoon RF, mostly DH. As I said I would love to see Choo signed but he may be too expensive. Garcia is still the utility guy and Kinsler moves to LF in place of Murphy. Moreland is going nowhere, I really think he has figured things out. CF is still Martin/Gentry with Martin getting most of the starts. Baker will be brought back if his price is reasonable.
Because we all know what a great left fielder Kins is.
RotationDarvishHarrisonHollandOgandoone of Perez, Tepsch, Feliz.
BullpenSoria, Scheppers, Ortiz, Ross, Frasor maybe, Feliz or Perez, and one more that we pick up and plug in.
DH Berkman1b Moreland2b profar or KinslerSS Andrus3b BeltreRf ?CF GentryLF Martin
Bench is who knows. At this time last year Baker wasn't here and no one would have put Garcia on the roster.
Catcher is going to be a mess most likely. Chrinos looks like our backup. The starter is either AJP or not currently with the team, unless we are going to go to just about a straight split with a AAAA catcher.
This off season should be fun. We really could use an overhaul in the corner OF. I could see us trying to see if we can get either Murphy or Cruz on a friendly contract. I could see something like Cruz 2/26 with an easy option for 13 for the 3rd year, with the idea that he's RF next year and probably DH the two years after. Mostly because I just don't see any viable FA other then Choo or Ellsbury, who I suspect get more years and more money then I'd want to give to either of them. I'm thinking Choo is playing himself to a 5/80-5/100 type of deal, and Ellsbury can't stay healthy and is basically a CF which we have in spades right now.
Maybe Kinsler could catch.
Grimm and Tepesch will be Rangers for awhile, no way we move these guys for Stanton. Maybe Perez, Olt and Bueckel.
Those three guys is plenty for Stanton. If they want Profar pick one of Perez or Buechel.
Kolar... Feliz won't be back in the rotation. His arm didn't stand up to the innings.
But, if he's matured a bit, he's an elite closer.
PLEASE tell us who want Buckel?
Draggle, prove your assertion. Was Feliz's arm already starting to work its way through? Did he throw a pitch that really went oddly and caused a tear? Was his motion going to cause it eventually? People smarter then us in the field regularly say they have no idea, outside of prolonged abuse, what causes pitchers to get injured.
I think its not unlikely they have him as a RP this year, mostly because that would be the most likely way to get something out of him this year and to limit his innings for this year. But I do think if they believe starting didn't cause the injury and that he still has the build and arm actions to start that they will try him as a starter again. If he is even a #3 starter giving around 180-190 innings he is more valuable to the team then if he turns into the second coming of Rivera. Starters are just a bigger deal and harder to come by then 1 inning power arms.
If Feliz makes it back this year, he'll almost certainly spend it in the pen. (I shudder to think about how much our depth will be tested if he's needed as a SP by then.) It depends on how everyone performs this year, of course, but I think Feliz probably gets another shot at the rotation in 2014 (among several other viable candidates, I assume). They brought him up as a starter, they tried to make him a starter last year, and he didn't do that badly before TJ took its toll (3.16 ERA, though his FIP/SIERA were substantially higher...)
The Neftali-Feliz-being-a-starting-pitcher experiment is probably over. And though that's sad, it's the reality of having Yu Darvish, Matt Harrison, Derek Holland and Alexi Ogando under team control for the foreseeable future, which makes me a lot less sad.
As far as David's His arm didn't stand up to the innings point, I don't see how that's relevant. He was injured in May, so it's not like he had accumulated a ton of innings. He was, after all, a starter during the majority of his Minor League career.
People much smarter than we are will tell you 98% of pitching injuries are functionally random. A guy with sound mechanics could go down with an elbow or a shoulder just like Chris Sale, who we perceive to have a violent windup. The difference is the frequency. "Good" mechanics just make your odds of staying healthy better than someone with "poor" mechanics, though it's completely debatable what constitutes either end of the spectrum.
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