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The jury is still out on Derek Holland, but he's been looking really nice this year. Only three other times in his career has he allowed double-digits in hits, though who would have thought in a game where he went 7.0 innings and allowed only 1 run that we'd be talking about it like it was a slight disappointment?
Regardless, I'm never surprised when he pitches well. I've always been a strong believer in Derek, and I'm hoping as much as anyone that he continues this run of success.
Also, I love WAR and everything, but I'm about ready to abandon any pitching-related stat outside of strikeout and walk rates. There is just too much damn variance on that side of the ball.
ERA and WHIP and FIP can be dumped for all I care. SIERA, xFIP ... they're fine. But if you want to talk projections, just focus on the K's and BB's.
Primi, we don't need a 5 man rotation for the playoffs. We need 4 at most and could probably get by with three.
Darvish, Holland, Lewis, Ogando
I like our chances with those 4.
It is knd of jump the gun. Anything can happen in our life including theirs.According to old men, life is full of wonder. So, wonderful if it would go as you say.
Lets hold back the confetti. We've seen this Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde game with Holland before... but if you want some encouraging signs. His BABIP, prior to the 10 hits, was unsustainably low, now he's around his career average for BABIP. Perhaps the most encouraging sign is that his home runs are down, and his walks are slightly as well.
I want to like holland to be our #2, but give it a couple months. It would never hurt to have a playoff rotation of Darvish, Lee, Holland, Lewis.
Team's victory comes all before data xFIP, SIERA, LOB%, ERA, etc.
W-L record wise, Dutch is doing fine so far. Tha is all period
W/L can be good for determining how good Holland has been, but it can distract you from more useful metrics for predicting how well he will pitch in the future.
Dwight: Don't be a nerd turd.
Don't be a loser.
Pitching W/L record means nothing.
Fine. No advanced stats here. Darvish is 5-1 with a 2.56 ERA. Dutch is 3-2 with a 2.54 ERA. So even though Dutch's ERA is a little lower, he's not doing nearly as well as Yu because he's won 2 fewer games and lost 1 more.
Another idiotic statement by Homeo212000
That was uncalled for. I guess I've still got a lot of pent up frustration in dealing with my latent homosexuality.
And here we go with more worthless material from JD. I'm sad I won't be able to post tonight while I'm out humping your mom.
pitching won lost record does mean something especially in the american league where starting pitching is at a premium. those around long enough to get a win are usually getting their innings in. everything has to play out right for a starter to get a win with the bullpen and offense geting their parts done but a won loss record means more in the Al than in the NL. also regarding holland, he is definitely providing what the rangers need in terms of keeping the ball in the park, using his defense well and keeping his pitch counts under control. that helps maximize the bullpen and covers for lapses by the young pitchers at the end of the rotation. Derek is more serious about his craft and it shows.
"I hope you are right but too many things have to go well to get a playoff ready 5 man rotation."
I'm not sure I can name a team that has gone with a five man rotation in the playoffs. Darvish is a great front man for a playoff rotation and Holland shows signs of being a good number 2 in a playoff rotation. If Lewis gets healthy and back to form he's a proven commodity in the post season and Ogando isn't a bad fourth guy.
We've had enough injuries for a while. I'll sit here and hope those four are healthy and fully functional at the end of the year and really look forward to the playoffs if that's the case.
It is a great idea. I am talking about a big get together. Why don't you take lead role?
There must be many including me who are interested in participating in such stuff like that one if it ever comes true.
That big-get-together thing shall be held on the very night when Rangers win a WS!
A problem: I live off the US...
"pitching won lost record does mean something"
No. No it doesn't. It is, of all the traditional stats, the worst.
"especially in the american league where starting pitching is at a premium."
How is it more at a premium than in the NL?
Thank Yu Eric. Spot on!:---> "the jury is still out on Holland" To Which i counter w/ 2 time WS tested "Good Holland"2011, Gm 4 masterpiece was the same as 2013 against Boston. 8in.,0runs, 9KsHolland is current staff ERA leader but he has not seen it comming in the past.
Not good / bad:::---> New & Improved
Maybe you are right. Maybe you aren't.
I need more than a 7-game sample. He's shown some good things, but let's not rush into vaulting him as our #2 starter. Remember, we need him pitching this well in September and October.
This may be as good as we've seen Derek Holland in his career. Now let's see him do it for a full year. That's what the good one's do.
Exactly. As I said I've seen this before. Derek has had plenty of stretches put together with great starts. The litmus test is doing it for at least a good 15-20 starts, and over a full season.
As for the young pitchers, I really think Tepesch is a mainstay in this rotation for a long time given good health. Even though Grimm may have better stuff, Tepesch's sinker just plays so well in Arlington. It's even nastier than Harrison's. He has the demeanor and the control to put up similar performance levels to what Harrison has done the last two seasons IMO. I think he'll be a really good mid to back end rotation guy.
Grimm is a bit harder to predict. Better stuff sure, but more wild, and not quite the same mound presence, though he's still very impressive in that regard for a kid 7 starts into his big league career.
At this point recognition must be given to:Verlander (Fister, Sanchez)Wainwright (Miller, Lynn)Baumgarner (Lincecum, Cain)Darvish (Holland, Ogando)
No Team is complete without proper due considerations: to each teams Relief: to each teams Bats:
At the quarter pole: St. Louis, Detroit, Rangers, San Fran. Seem complete (w/potential warts)Beware the ides of suprise: Dodgers, Braves, Indians (really?) RojoSox, Wash. Orioles
As a Team: Rangers are showing grit!: They win when it matters.Apply the metrics and this team competes as is. (A Bat to win it all!?)
Good vs. bad Holland or good vs. bad Ogando (doing everything to destroy the idea he's best in relief) and Rook Arms Maturing on OJT: Rangers have pitching options in reserve but OJT is king!These arms will prove thier metal in the future---> at the very least! (I see one proven rook arm this year!)
Detroit & St. Louis series will tell us all we need to know about how we stand through the first half of the season.
Gotta scuse my spelling & syntax: I'm numbers guy not a cunning linguist.
But what if his ADR surpasses the FUG of his ERW? The % of his OMH will not and must not exceed his DRS. If this happens we are SOL. Meanwhile let's hope that our team LOR does not warrant getting Klos for the future percentile based on predicates establishe by MLB. In short, I don't necessarily expect him to pitch like an ace all season, but I wouldn't be terribly surprised if he did.[ISIDNEHTPLAAASBIWBTSIHD]
The top-7 American League pitchers according to FIP-wins:
1. Anibal Sanchez (+2.6 fWAR)2. Felix Hernandez (+2.2)3. Clay Bucholz (+2.2)4. Derek Holland (+2.1)5. Justin Verlander (+2.1)6. Max Scherzer (+1.9)7. Yu Darvish (+1.9)
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