What is your opinion of the A.J. Pierzynski signing?
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Maybe someone could give me a little more info on this guy and why he hasn't gotten a chance with the big league club? The guy had triple slash lines at AAA of .322/.388/.493 and .290/.392/.473 in 2011 and 2012, respectively. So far this year, he's even better - .341/.433/.511 through 100 PAs. He plays corner OF.
Anyone know why this guy has never gotten a look up in the MLB? Seems like he could provide some much needed pop to our lineup and provide some more stability in the OF if Murphy continues to struggle.
He didn't look amazing in Spring Training. I imagine it would take a little while longer of Murphy slumping, or something like that, for Butler to get the call. Besides, what would they do with Murphy? DL him for some bullshit reason?
He's an org depth guy. He's basically an AAAA player.
Nompton has is dead on.
Nompton - that definitely seems to be the case, considering his been in Roundrock for 2+ years now. Just hard to deem a guy AAAA before he gets a shot at the MLB level. Wouldn't mind seeing how he hangs up here at some point.
But Andy, you're right. They don't really have a spot for him unless someone gets injured. I just wasn't sure if anyone knew how he graded out from a scouting/prospect perspective.
He's 27 without even as much as a cup of coffee in the bigs. The scouts must not think he is that viable.
No shit Revsader, just wasn't sure if anyone had any real insight on the guy. Thought it was a "viable" topic considering his solid production.
you tell him crow
He'd perform about the same at the ML level as Brandon Boggs or Julio Borbon (minus the run) (and I'm not just making these comps because they're black). I'm not sure what more insight you'd want. Butler was projected to be a -0.2 WAR player at the ML level.
At 27, there's not much left for Butler to prove. He's put up nice numbers in the minors which, from a pure statistical stand point, show a fair amount of power, hit for average, but not a burner on the base path. Take his numbers with a grain of salt. the PCL (AAA) is a haven for hitters, not so much for pitchers. I think his numbers would be vastly deflated at the MLB level. Take his average for example; his average is buoyed by a VERY high BABIP (~.400). Look at his 2010-2011 numbers at the AA level (a good barometer of potential ceiling). Do I think he could play at the MLB level? Sure, but it would be as a 4th OF on a 2nd division team. I think he could play in Miami almost full time.
Here's what BP wrote in 2012 about Butler:
An organizational player for most of his most of his career, 25 year-old outfielder Joey Butler exploded in 2011, hitting .322/.388/.493 in a full-season at the Triple-A level. Seen by most as a Four-A type rather than a legit major league option, Butler will keep trying to earn that shot at the bigs.
We should include him in a package for Stanton.
Andy, this is completely off topic, but I notice your posts over at LSB sometimes. Do you post there a lot? I feel like they aren't to accepting of outsiders and they criticize you heavily if you are a new poster.
Not sure who tried arguing with me during the offseason that Joey Butler deserved a shot in the OF, and I do agree, he has earned the shot. But probably in the National League.
The Rangers just have no use for guys who are anything less than sure things, or who at least flash the type of potential to grow into a sure thing, a la Leonys Martin. Like Nompton said, Butler is an organizational guy all the way.
He's Billy Butler in the OF... not a solid defender, but capable. Good stick, but not great.
The Rangers have no more a place for Joey than they would for Billy. For some reason, they are all about the "toolsy" athlete and aren't really interested in "baseball" players.
He'll prolly never get a chance in Arlington. I'm surprised that Baker has been given a chance in that he's not so toolsy, either.
Baker can play 4 positions. Butler can just play COF.
@Revsader: I post there sometimes. I wouldn't say they're not accepting of new posters, but, not unlike this site when more of the regulars are around, they can sometimes be rough on people who openly display ignorance (e.g. saying AVG and RBI are the best performance measures). Personally I haven't had any problems there, and I wouldn't think you would, either.
I've gotten lots of shit from Ghost of Erick Thompson and his crew, just for being realistic during a game. I guess when you try to stick up for a player they've made a punching bag it doesn't end well for you.
you get lots of shit because they don't tolerate fools
The Ghost of Erick Thompson is awesome. I also like the poster known as "Brad," but anyway.
I don't have any problem with LSB or its posters, I just don't like it as much as BBTiA. Check that, DJ Cahill is whack. Other than that I have no problem with LSB's posters.
Night night Eric
I used to read LSB a lot, but never found it worth my time posting there. Their articles and format just don't compare to BBTIA. I sure wish Joey would be true to his word and bring in some new writers here. I miss good saber articles and game insights, and LSB just doesn't provide enough depth for me.
What deteriorates this forum is people like JD who would rather bitchslap others than say anything worth reading.
your meaningless contributions don't help samson
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