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No clue why I still read things posted on ESPN.com, but Howard Bryant seems to think the Rangers are doomed this year. According to him Young was the soul of the Rangers, and that Kinsler wants no part of being a leader. He offered no quote or proof to back up this claim, mind you. He then goes on to bemoan the loss of Hamilton, and even further misrepresents what the Rangers did by making Daniels president of baseball operations. Not to say that Texas is impervious to crumbling from within, but Bryant is overstating all points to build his case.
Kinsler a leader? He couldn't lead a whore to bed!
While I don't believe Young's departure will affect this team (in my mind it can only help), I agree that Kinsler is not a leader. Beltre should be the guy wearing the "C", and Darvish has outstanding leadership qualities through action. Losing Hamilton this season will have an impact, but I believe Moreland, AJP, and Berkman will more than make up for Hamiliton's lost production. Losing the diva mentality is a plus, and Hamilton was overrated in the outfield.
? is right. you can tell by observing Kins, he is not a leader. Bryant is more right than wrong. we teeter more closely to cellar than the top. you can forget this yr.
Bryant is throwing excessive shit against the wall to see how much of it will stick so he can say "I told you so" an any point he brought up later in the year. Poor journalism.
I don't remember Ian saying he didn't want to be a "leader" (and what does that even mean?) The Rangers don't have an official team captain. Does J.D. want someone anointed the unofficial "team leader" position for some reason?
I don't even remember Ian saying he didn't want to move to 1B when they asked him to consider it. The only quote I saw was something to the effect of he had discussed it with the team and they had all decided it was best for him to continue to focus on 2B.
I've heard rumors that Ian doesn't like talking to the press very much. I don't care. Where is it written that a team needs a "leader", and what is he supposed to do? We all know the things Young did that made others consider him a leader. But why are those mandatory to assign to one person?
Very poor journalism, indeed.
A leader leads by example on the field and during practice and not because he is anointed the title by the press. MY was a team spokesman to the media as the senior Ranger. The media does not lean toward a rookie for team questions. In time, the media will pick their "team leader" as a spokesman, not to be confused with what happens on the field or in the clubhouse.
Good point, ozzie.
Leaders are not made, they are invented by the media as part of a narrative. Michael Young was the "leader" because he spoke to Evan Grant and others; Young liked to be heard.
Ian Kinsler has always received far more bullshit from the media and fan base than he deserves. And the formula is simple: he is animated on the field and reserved away from it. Those are the type of people I, myself, appreciate, but it doesn't exactly help Galloway and Grant when they are writing articles. (Plus the fact that, you know, Ian Kinsler is a .270-ish hitter and Michael Young hit .300, so Young was clearly wielding more #leadership in the box.)
Some believe that's the reason the Rangers brought in AJP and Lance Berkman, because they have both been through the media wringer. That give good quotes. So players like Kinsler and Adrian Beltre can focus more on putting forth MVP-type seasons.
I love it when the media types blast the media.
Adrian Beltre is a leader.Lance Berkman loves to run his mouth. He's always loved to rip the Rangers.Maybe he will like us now? I don't know if that is leadership--but he has skins.
I think most players lead by example...
Beltre plays hard every single day, every single play... I'm not sure i've ever seen a guy run out sure fire ground outs harder than beltre does...
I have a hard time with Ian as a leader; not because he isn't immensely talented, or he has a reputation of being a little harder to get a quote out of, but it's his occasionally lackadaisical play and his refusal to accept meaningful criticism.
Ian makes too many lazy errors (for a plus, plus fielder, he shouldn't be leading the league in errors for a 2nd baseman)...
Ian fails to run out ground balls... he jogs down to first on almost every routine ground ball...n
Ian gets picked off base too many times..
Ian steadfastly refuses to adjust his approach and try going the other way.... when he has tried it in the past, he's had MVP caliber performances...
I like Kinsler as a person... I like Kinsler as a ballplayer (he's immensely talented)... but I don't think he has great leadership qualities... and it has nothing to do with the media...
That doesn't make any sense.You hate him as a player--but like him as a person?
IF Kinsler was a leader he would have gotten Josh outta Sherlocks that night!!!
Terry C....story is, if I recall, after Kins took Josh home, Josh went back out.
Terri, know what you are talking about before you start flappin your gums.
Well then...he should have locked him in his room..like the Wolfman he is!
Ozzie, its gonna be funny with the looseness that Josh has in Anaheim, how long before he is getting fucked up in Compton and its all over ESPN?
Gosh I don't know Champ. What say you? And what is this "looseness in Anahein" thing??
He's right to some extent. A lot if what he says is way overblown, but my expectations are low for this year. Teams don't need a "leader" to be successful. As some have said, it's just a made up title annointed by the media. If the rangers can get into the wildcard game, I'll consider the season a success. JD and the Front Office seemingly wanted to get younger by not re-signing players such as Mike Napoli and Hamilton to replace with them Olt, Martin, Perez, and Profar. Where will Olt and Profar be once the season starts? In the minors. Our bullpen is pretty much a mess as well. Our two most dependable guys will be Ross and Nathan. After that it's pretty much a crap shoot.
I had a "looseness in Las Colinas" thing once after some bad Tex-Mex.
Ian has given a good interview over the years, go back and pay attention to post interviews and often it is Ian. For leadership it only counts to how the team responds to that individual player. And if a vote was taken Ian along with Beltre, AJP, Berkman and Colby would be given heavy consideration. But I see Andrus as the leader and future captain of the Rangers, especially if he signs an extended 5+ year contract after 2014. This is even apparent in the dugout and on the field, where the game seems to evolve around Elvis, and more so then just being the shortstop.
@Champ....It just a matter of time. I do not think this leopard will loose its spots, same a the Rangers FO when the contract is 25m/yr. Sure the 43 hr's will be missed, but the 200 AB's or so that were God awful will not.
Ozzie, how do you 'lOOse spots? LMFAO
I like Ian as a person and as a ballplayer. I don't, however, like him as a leader; but leaders aren't appointed, it either happens naturally, or it doesn't. The team will either follow him, or it won't.
My point was, that Ian's occasionally lackadaisical play and attitude doesn't scream leadership.
I agree that "leadership" is supremely overrated in sports. That's for the media and fans to argue over incessantly. As long as guys like Beltre are there to lead by example, then the team will be fine.
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