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Scenario 1: Ownership really has taken significant decision making power out of Nolan's hands and given it to JD. And Nolan doesn't like this and is looking for a way to leave.
Scenario 2: Ownership left the leadership structure basically in tact while giving JD a bit more say in deliberations. Nolan isn't real happy about this and is thus allowing the media storm as a broad side warning shot across the bow of the organization so that his power is not cut into in the future.
If 2 is the case Nolan will let this go on for a wile and then he will come out and say everything is fine.
If 1 is the case Nolan will leave soon.
What would be really bad is a third scenario somewhere in between 1 and 2.
And if that is the case it is untenable. Two guys cannot run the same ship. It will not work, and we can expect "its him or me" Ryan to leave for Houston, but if this scenario is the case it could get very ugly before that happens.
I just hope ownership is not stupid enough to allow scenario 3 to come into being because that is the worst sort of bull shit an organization can suffer, not knowing who is in charge. We have been threw this before with Chucky Cheese, CEO.
If 3 is the case Bobby and Ray need to get together and rip it off.
It is either Daniels or it is Nolan.
Bottom line. Do what you have to do to sort that out before the season starts.
Nolan will never go to Houston. First he and Crane are not much on speaking terms. Houston is filledwith new SABR guys from BBP. Do you really think at Nolan's age he wants to get dumped on again inthe near future? This is a demeaning adventure for Ryan, or for that matter, any man. It may be just business,but this scenario dose not lead to any real significant saving graces. The owners of Simpson & Davis made avery large credibility sink hole. Hubz hopeful integrity & respect factor has been launched into the sun- ZERO.
And all of this is based on ONE source - Randy Galloway. Nobody has been able to independently verify anything that Galloway reported.
Dude, you're missing the point. Throw the supposed rift factor away between Ryan/Daniels.Simpson/Davis' Org decision drove a wedge into a business relationship that was working.It may have been edgy, but the wheels were at least turning. Now a cog in the wheel is there.Daniels even convinced Ryan that Darvish was the proper move. Ryan acquiesced in trust.The owners should have stayed out of the baseball end of the business, as promised.
Bye Nolan-CYA! Waaaaaagh
I expect Nolan Ryan to stay. The Rangers need Ryan an he Needs the Rangers, He's big enoughto tower over such things and he'll progress forward. He's a big believer in "what doesn't kill himonly makes him stronger".
The Rangers need Ryan an he Needs the Rangers
Really, since when? What tangible evidence is out there to suggest Nolan Ryan has ever been anything more than a figurehead for the Rangers?
As an aside, when I was in Surprise a couple weeks ago, Nolan was maybe 10 feet from me after the game signing autographs. My best friend, Trey, asked if I was interested in getting one from him, and I declined. I instead went to get another beer before we left the stadium.
To be honest, even though logically what I just wrote is probably counter-intuitive, signing autographs and taking pictures is the only contribution I can think of that Nolan Ryan has brought to the Rangers. Face it, he didn't bring the Rangers out from the depths; that was Jon Daniels and his team.
Eric...You were beside yourself getting Jason Parks autograph, yet a man who threw 7 no hitters didn't intrigue you? I find that interesting.
I do not know how Nolan's contract with ownership is written, but Nolan has a percentage of the team ownership. If he was to loose that buy quitting, it would be a bad decision worth millions of dollars. JD does not own a percentage of the team. He could fail and be out a job in 2 -3 years. I don't think Nolan would walk away without getting ownership in another team in other words. People keep pointing to Houston but what would be a bigger PR disaster is if Atre stepped up and took Nolan back to LAAA and gave him a piece of the ownership. Now that would be mess that JD would have a hard time cleaning up.
Interesting... it would be following a certain trend that may be on the brink of forming. Seriously though, I think it's doubtful because Ryan exudes a high amount of Texan pride.
My last post in reference to ozzie33's post:People keep pointing to Houston but what would be a bigger PR disaster is if Atre stepped up and took Nolan back to LAAA and gave him a piece of the ownership.
DR -I think it would be highly unlikely too, but Nolan did play for the Angels too. Arte's president is only on the job 1 year and last year wasn't great. Farm is bare too. It would rock the baseball world and the Rangers more than taking Hamilton and CJ.
@ozzieYes, I think it would create quite the storyline and intensify the rivalry.
Don't know if it matters, but....1 Nolan is under contract to the Rangers for 3 more years and his boss doesn't want him to leave2 Nolan is a part-owner which means he can't work for another team without giving up his share in the Ramgers
Yes, Nolan is a part owner. He's the minority owner. He's a lot like Jay Z with the Brooklyn Nets: he's the face you see, but his stake in the team is pennies compared to the Russian Billionaire. That's how Nolan is with Simpson and Davis. That's how Magic Johnson is with the Dodgers.
The point is, you don't want Magic Johnson deciding which players to sign and how much money they should make. You want Magic Johnson awkwardly making cheesy commercials, and cooking the most wieners on the planet.
You can't thank Nolan Ryan for signing Yu Darvish. That was Daniels & Co.
You can't blame Daniels & Co. for signing Roy Oswalt. That was Nolan Ryan.
Basically, Nolan Ryan has turned into Michael Young: he was loved, admired, thought of in only the highest of regards. He was given too much credit for instilling "toughness" and having the right "mindset" and delivering a "winning culture" to Texas. When, really, what has he done?
Everything good that's happened with the Rangers, since the Mark Teixeira trade of 2007, has been thanks to Jon Daniels. He, Thad Levine, A.J. Preller and Kip Fagg are all monumentally more important to the Rangers than Nolan Ryan, even though Nolan is the one they want to build the monument of.
"Everything good that's happened with the Rangers, since the Mark Teixeira trade of 2007, has been thanks to Jon Daniels."
You say that as if you were inside the front office and know all, rather than an outsider making assumptions. It's quite biased to assume with certainty that every right decision was Daniels' and every mistake was Ryan's (especially when we look back and see some of the colossal blunders on JD's resume before Ryan arrived)..
I'll say it again: Richard Durrett said it best, "Nolan gets all the credit and Daniels does all the work." (paraphrased)
Ryan sheltered Daniels & crew through the whole time of Hicksville & into the Davis & Simpson era.He allowed Daniels to grow. He never stood in his way. Nolan has always openly diverted the success of the new Rangers Org to Daniels & crew. He's played the role of CEO to the tee, without getting intoDaniels GM & player personnel shadow.
He made one big goof, by bringing in Roy Oswalt. His fault for RoyO's nonperformance? Seems the major rub, was bringing in Houston's former GM into a personnel position. He's basically a genius and way over qualified for that job, yet he took the challenge for Ryan's sake. Seems that is where "the rub" started and continues to be the rub. A working genius blocking neophytes from an upswing job position? Please, get over it and quit whining. Ryan has done a terrific job being CEO. Daniels should continue to grow with his needed input & quell some of his mouthy lower members on his staff. It's Daniels job to managehis staff. He shouldn't allow the yelps & bites of some of his staff members to upset the balance that works.Ryan's not the problem.
Maybe if Nolan goes to the Angels they will sign Oswalt.
This is all about a jerk named Galloway. None of this crap is true. Nolan is a man of honor and the kid has said he reports to Nolan. No more story here, move along folks.
mmurphf, right now Nolan Ryan is acting like a straight up bitch.
By "the kid," are you referring to Jon Daniels, the guy who made the Rangers what they are? Because that's the President of our Baseball Operations.
Mmmmurph bought some cows from Nolan and now he worships the guy.
Obi When Ryan is CEO and Daniels is GM I think all is good but I have a feeling Ryan pulled a Jerry Jones and started telling JD who he should pick up (like Oswalt) and probably even interviened in the Washington Line up issues. And I think JD was upset but figured it was a rough season for everyone and figured he would clean it up in the off season. Then Nolan tried to get a little to invloved in the off season and when JD said something Nolan had the him or me meeting with Bob and Ray and didn't get the answer he though he would.Now having said all that no one knows what went on really but from what we have heard so far leads me to believe this was the case.Eric I wouldn't sell Nolan short here! sure JD pick the kids but Nolan changed the culture here and he also understood what JD was doing and gave him the time to do it. Hack he could have fired JD back in 08 or even again in 2010 and no one would have said a word about it, instead he stayed the course andl let JD do his thing.
Without BOTH of them here we wouldn't be where we are today. Nolan has his feelings hurt right now but he's a smart guy and he's not going to throw the baby out with the bath water! He's going to let everyone twist in the wind then he'll go back to being the CEO and selling Hot dogs and sitting next to Dubya.
I'd like to see Nolan put you in a headlock and give you some nuggies.That would be better than an autograph for your smart A
I am amazed at how many people have taken the Galloway bait - hook, line, and sinker.
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