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Eric I haven't seen Martin play enough to say one way or the other about him. I'll make an assumption though that if they want him to play CF he's got some skills with the glove and he's fast.if you put him in Left Gentry (who we KNOW can play) center and Murphy in Right, Defensively doesn't sound to bad. Far from one of the worst outfields in the league.Offensivelly on the other hand has the chance to be one of the worst.
Daniels has suggested just trying Profar in a few games in right during Spring training. He is getting that suggestion from the coaching staff, knowing that Profar could easily play the outfield, at least a lot easier than Soriano. And speaking of Alfonso, could see him moving from the Cubs left field to the Rangers. JD and Epstein seem to have speed dialing with each other, after all the deals they made. A strong indication was over Brigham. Do you think the Rangers would have done that with the Angels. To paraphrase, OH I am sorry Brigham did not work out, let me send you another good prospect in his place. Then Murphy moves to right. It is exactly because the Rangers see their outfield as their weak link that even thoughts of trying Olt or Profar, or even less in agreement, moving Kinsler to right or hoping a 5-tool but .260 life time minor league batter as the next great center fielder. Hints at desperation. Eric your posts do not reflect a nihlist, despite the use of 'idiot' or 'stupid' to describe someone or some thought, but a much more pragmatic perspective, with some individual hopes [ ie Upton}. If your post were nihilstic they would all be extremely depressing and negative. Nihilism, even as a Russian political movement a 150 years ago, was more dispiriting then then anarchists, and that is not easy to do.
Jose canseco now there's a great man that we should all strive to be like
Why waste your time with Manny and Canseco when I am still available?
At age 19 I would be worried if Profar weighed much more than #165....he will naturally gain 40 or 50 pounds in the next 5 years...so weight is not the issue. Height is not the issue either, although at least a dozen people who strated in the outfield last year were 5'11" or shorter. A right fielder needs an arm. Other than reasonable speed which is not something Cruz posesses anymore, the arm is all-important. Profar's arm is one of his best strengths. Even if Profar were to become the daily starter in RF, if Andrus left the next year he could easily be moved into SS again. A player does not "forget" how to play a position and if he is going to get a chance to play regularly it doesn't matter if a year of control is burned, he is contributing and being given a shot.
COOPERSTOWN, NY: Jurickson Profar will be inducted into the baseball Hall of Fame, today along with bla bla other guy(s). Jurickson was a lifetime Texas Ranger having started his career as a right fielder with a rifle arm and golden glove speed. A fifteen time All Star (6 in the outfield and 9 at short stop), Profar was a key component of 12 Rangers' World Championships.
@ David Draggle nice that had me dreaming for a second or two.
You can make a case for why playing Profar in RF is stupid. But for JD to suggest it or allude to it is anything but stupid. If I'm a rival GM (for instance, the one in Miami who controls Giancarlo, or any other who covets Elvis), and I believe the Rangers are in no hurry to resolve their SS conundrum, then I've lost a little leverage on a potential deal. I don't believe we'll actually see Profar in RF, but the possibility of it perhaps buys the Rangers a little time to make a move.
btw, I didn't mean to imply that Miami might want Elvis, but rather Profar. Teams coveting Elvis represent a separate category (2013-2014 contenders). Similar type of leverage would apply to both categories.
Agree with what Joe C. said above...an outfield with Murphy, Martin, and Gentry would be one of the worst offensively. Why not give Profar a look, not really much difference in using him in the OF than using Olt. So many were clamoring for Profar's bat in the lineup late last year, so here's a chance. Although it's really too early to say Cruz won't be available. But I wonder with the scandal hanging over his head, will he be the same player or too distracted to play well?
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I guess I didn't make my self clear and include an important bit of info that's been driving my opposition to "trying Profar out" in RF. Forgive me for assuming everyone knew all the facts.
When Profar was called up last season and placed on the roster, it started his service clock and he accumulated 33 days of ML service in spite of getting less than 20ab's. That clock will continue running as long as he's on the 25 man roster.
In order to quantify '1 year' of service time, players must accumulate 172 days on the 25 man. Which leaves Jurickson needing to be up 139 of the 183 days in the 2013 season to reach his 1st year of service threshold. Or looking at it another way, he needs to be in AAA for just 44 days (a month and a half). Since service time and contracts aren't considered until the end of a season, Profar wouldn't accrue his first year of service until the end of the 2014 season if he spends the first month and a half+ in Round Rock.
Now I guess you could make the argument that Profar could start the season in RF then be optioned to AAA when Cruz returns (I'm amazed this whole forum is based on the premise he is suspended, yet nobody has mentioned that). But honestly, who really feels like that is the best use of his skill set? Move him out of position all spring and through May, send him to AAA to re-acclimate to shortstop/2B then call him back up in August for a playoff race we may or may not even be in? I'm just not liking any part of that scenario.
Which brings me back to my opposition of trying Profar in RF. My hopes are he and Olt both start in AAA, Martin steps up big, Cruz isn't suspended and we reevaluate where the team is in June.
As noted, it was JD whom started the talk of players ability to play other positions. Profar wasincluded in his very open rhetoric. That's besides whether Cruz is suspended or not. To me, itplays out that JD could give a damn about "the service clock" that many are so twisted about.It's not stupid if Daniels is throwing out the scenario, unless JD's vision tweaks his followers patience.Even Kieth Law talks & views it similar, without getting bent over it. Daniels is doing his GM work and not particularly by a SABR view. Oooops!
"Our stance with Jurickson is if he demonstrates he's one of our best 25 and maybe one of our best nine, if we're convinced he can make an impact on the team and continue his progress, we'll be open-minded," Daniels said. "We see him long-term as a shortstop and a middle infielder, but he may take some balls [in the outfield]."
This is what I expected this to be all about... The FO will put the best guys on the field, regardless of whether they have played there or not. Whoever plays the best in ST and gives the Rangers the best opportunity for wins will get the job, pure and simple. Profar could be that guy, or Engle Beltre could be that guy...
Surprise (AZ) always gives us just that... a few unexpected surprises. Robbie Ross was last year's, CJ Wilson and Ogando were the ones the year before.
Open mindedness to ANY possibility with any player is crucial for a FO, IMO.
We may not have 7 Zobrists, but I think we have the flexibility to put the 7 best players out there in some arrangement.
Heck, who cares when Profars' duty time begins? They are paying him, people are screaming for him to play, so play him, lol!! I played baseball for close to12 years and played 4 positions well during that time. I played where I was put.
@RangerbourneAbsolutely. It's a players game, pure & simple. Prospects are well & good, certainly needed,but when it's time to step-up, that's going to fall on the knowledge and faith of the GM, Mgr andOrganization.
I'm really happy that the chances to step-up are legitimate. Daniels is playing anOld School card(s) here. Profar, Olt and even Beltre, should have a full shot at showing thierprogress and the ultimate rsvp... to make it as a MLB Player. Elvis won't spent much time at ST, because of the World Tourny. That will give Profar plenty ofwork at short stop. Cruz playing in the same tourny will give Beltre a good look as a COF, as willLeonys at both CF and COF. Looks like our bench will be filled out by platoon ready rookies/prospects.If Profar ends up being our super utility, I just hope it gets him 400 PA, so he can grow with the experience.
Wow... Cooperstown... sigh...
You really think Jurickson'll spend 6 years in the OF? That means you're thinking Elvis re-signs and Ian becomes glue at 2B.
OK. I'd buy that. But, after 6 years in the OF, Jurickson may have lost his edge on playing the IF... maybe a little dabbling in the IF during the 6 years as a uMIF from time-to-time would do the trick.
Nice play. Good story. Cooperstown. Do it!
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