What is your opinion of the A.J. Pierzynski signing?
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Davidinarlington. know what you are talking about and mind your own business would be my advice to you.
I wish to apologize to anyone here that I might have offended. I spoke out of turn when it had nothing to do with me. I'm sorry.
@Fajita - YES! A thousand times yes! Not only do the Rangers have depth at the lower levels, but they have high ceiling depth. I mean honestly I would not be surprised if their are at least 5 future allstars in the Rangers system currently excluding Profar, Olt, Perez, Martin. Obviously Im biased and yes obviously prospects dont always pan out, but their is more RAW talent in our system right now than there has been in any system arguably over the past 20 years. Look at the Braves Dynasty, I think this organization is capable of that kind of longevity. I mean Alfaro, Odor, Sardinas, The Fab Five, The Big 3, Profar, Olt, Martin, Perez, Buckle, and even lesser names like Drew Robinson, Leury Garcia, Kellin Deglan, Luke Jackson, Keone Kela. CJ Edwards, David Perez, and than you have guys who have shown flashes like Neil Ram, Beltre, and Mendez and than you have the tool sheds who have shown little results like Akins, Cone, Skole, Matthews etc. This team has a deep farm system and I could take up over a year talking about the incredible depth in this system, including first hand accounts from Frisco and Arizona. I mean what this front office has put together has been incredible.-Look my point is, grammar mistakes aside, enjoy the next 20 years or so, because they are going to be special.
then trade some of them for help this year.
@David - I have no problem with you expressing your opinion on a public forum. It is your right to do so. You did nothing wrong, and you have nothing to apologize for.-@Bobby V - I really don't have the time to argue over nothing really. Im sorry that the use of the word "Correction" upset you. Next time I ask that you thoroughly read the post before attacking it, and I will do my part and not use the word "Correction" unless it has to do with grammar mistakes, which I won't point out because I simply don't have the time to nitpick others' posts. Regardless If you want to further discuss this I ask that you discuss the topic I brought up in rebuttal to your original thought, not this silly argument that has just taken place.
"then trade some of them for help this year."
Why, their value will only rise. Jorge Alfaro's value is a lot higher 2 years from now when he is a top 100 prospect, rather than now. There is no reason to overpay just because we have the luxury to do so. Unless we are trading for a franchise altering player or unless we are making a trade that the organization is comfortable making than there is no reason to do so. I think JD has earned some trust, and I trust that he will do whats best for the organization.
Bobby-V (How dare you blaspheme the name of the 2nd best behind Johnny Oats manager the Rangers have ever had BTW)
Not only do the Angels not have time to build their system they have no room for an injury. They are a major injury to any one of Pujols, Weaver, Hamilton or Trout from the Asto-World of 90 loses. Suppose Jarid Weaver takes his kid to mall and (Like Ruben Sierra) falls down the steps at the play area and breaks his ankle? What happens if Pojols gets the same bicep injury Dean Palmer had? What happens if Vernon Wells thinks it is funny to spike Josh Hamilton's soda with cocaine?
The Angels are in a win this year mode. If they don't win THIS year they are not going to win - probably - for many years to come
That said, maybe they have found out where the Yankees buy their smoke and mirrors from because I've said the same thing about the Yankees for several years
Jurkison-but martin perez value is much less than 2 yrs ago.
Martin Perez is a good spring and about 4 good starts away from regaining any value he had 2 years ago. He won't turn 22 until a few days in to the season.
If we've learned anything from the past couple years worth of offseason trades, it's that teams love to dream on young pitchers, but they aren't necessarily as "valuable" as we'd like to think when they're still 2-3 levels away from MLB.
Basically what henchman said. Players below Double AA simply aren't as valuable as they would be if they were at the higher levels. Martin Perez is really young, and I honestly still believe he can be a good starter at the ML level.
You sell prospects when they are on their high (Mike Olt) not after they have come off of two poor years. Many teams don't value Perez as #55 prospect that he is today, but like Henchmen said he gets some good starts under his belt he is right back at it. There is no need to trade away all of our talent when it is still so young with so much more growing to do. The Fab 5 in 3 years could be flipped for an ace, but now it wouldn't even begin a conversation. Patience is key you won't always start opening day with a lineup of all stars, thats just how the cookie crumbles.
I don't know what we would do on here without the kind of insight fajita brings to the table. That last post of his just says it all for me. AMAZING. Keep it up!
Fajita, Agree totally. I much prefer the way our FO manages the team than say the angeis FO.
In the past there was usually close to an all star team one could assemble from former Ranger utes traded away for that missing piece which was in reality a missing pitching staff instead............
I think the rangers just have an eye on the future. Why burn up all your trade chips on ra dickey or james shields now when david price and giancarlo stanton are going to be made available in the next year to year and a half?
It's quite possible we have the most high ceiling prospects in the game within a year. Even if we hold off on Elvis a year, we could easily still snag another top 20-30 prospect for him. I wouldn't put it past the Rangers to get both Price and Stanton. We're probably one Rafael Furcal spring training injury away from this getting really interesting.
Somebody did bring up a good point about Martin Perez dropping all the way down to the 50's. Is it because he struggled when he came up last Sept and threw what, 15-20 innings... in the thick of a pennant race? Or is it because he had a semi-rough time in AAA as a freaking 20 yr old facing 28 yr old journeyman?
I wouldn't be suprised if Perez follows a very similar career path as Derek Holland. He will have some jaw dropping outings followed by some really awful outings... but he will eventually figure things out and who knows, by the time Darvish is a FA, maybe he's ready to step in and replace him.The one thing that worries me is his psyche. He's still a pup and if he ends up in this rotation and gets roughed up, what will that do to his confidence? That's where good coaching comes in and as long as Mike Maddux sticks with the Rangers, a few bad outings won't shake him up.
We have more than 3 prospects better than Gallo.....
Gallo is too green to be on a list yet. So far, it looks like his ceiling for power is 85. And so far he's apparently demonstrated pretty good plate discipline. But there are questions about whether or not he'll make contact often enough. Also, a number of people don't think he'll stick at 3B. The good news is, if his hitting and power come even within sight of his ceiling, he can play 1B for all we care.
I'm as excited about Gallo as almost anyone. Think Stanton, or Josh if he didn't have guilt-trip slumps for a couple months. I think that's his ceiling. It's hard not to get excited about that. But it's still way too soon to try and assign much value to him and have it be anywhere near accurate.
Besides, this is only 1 list. Most prospect rankers, I assume, would not presume to rank him at all yet, much less so highly. He's not going away. At some point we'll have a better idea of how he'll do, and then his value can be determined.
Thanks so much for the astute analysis Andy. Since I don't have the time I used to it's good know there are other know it alls like yourself and Eric who can think for the masses even though you are not right nearly as often as I was. Playing baseball at a high level like I did gives me an insight that I'm sure you and others of your ilk would love to have.
"We have more than 3 prospects better than Gallo....."As Lance Armstrong likes to say "Scary".
@Ricky - Its posts like this that detract value from this from. Why "attack", and I use the word "attack" loosely, Andy for sharing his opinion. Look all of us here are passionate about the Rangers and baseball in general, and I see no need for us to go after each other. If you don't like someones' post, than ignore it. If you disagree with their opinion, than attack their opinion but not them.
Jurkson, don't you realize I gave him a compliment?
@juricksoon, This version of "Ricky" is simply our resident troll. Somehow he's even worse than the real Ricky. Starve his ass.
@ Ricky - That is my bad. Haha. I completely contradicted myself. The first sentence seemed sarcastic and the second sentence seemed liked you were taking a shot at him. As well as the 3rd sentence. Again I apologize, I've just been fed up recently with the amount of attacks on this board and I guess I directed my comment at you without fully understanding what you were trying to say. Again Im sorry, and I shouldn't have take my frustration out on you without taking the time to know what you said. This one is on me guys, not Kobe.
JDW-atx, try writing a comment without the word ASS in it. LOL
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