Here's some interesting reads courtesy of shutdowninning

Leonys Martin

Martin Perez

Anyone else have any lazy comps for these 2 players?

I'll do one for Profar:

Floor: Carlos Guillen w/ a slightly better glove

Ceiling: Barry Larkin

I wish: Ernie Banks

it's a good day to play 2!

I remember Julio Borbon was supposed to be Johnny Damon. That didn't work out well.

As far as lazy comps, SDI gave about as lazy a valuation as one could conjure up. If the floor is an established big leaguer, and the ceiling is a superstar, then you're leaving yourself quite a bit of leeway. I also disagree with the comps of Martin because his skill set isn't anything like Laynce Nix or Carlos Gonzalez. Talk about throwing in the goddamn towel.

As far as Jurickson Profar goes, I'd like to think he has a higher floor than Carlos Guillen, and a higher ceiling than Barry Larkin. But its really difficult to measure a player like Profar, because there aren't many rangy shortstops with strong arms and good base running instincts who also possess the ability to hit 250-300 home runs in their career.

Name recognition alone could net him 5-7 Gold Gloves (as arbitrary as GG's are [Michael Young, ahem]), and he's certainly on the fast track to be the best hitter at his position in the AL.

How about a healthy Tulowitzki for Profar ceiling? I realize he doesn't have the range or arm of Tulo, but the bat could be there. That's nice for a lazy comp haha.

THE LAZIEST: MARTIN PEREZ FLOOR: WILSON ALVAREZ, FOR THE RANGERS ONLY, LIFETIME ERA : INFINITY. CEILING: BABE RUTH, began his HOF career as a pitcher .

I'm thinking Alan Trammell.

Although, Derek Jeter is always the hope.

Jurickson Profar- jose reyes
ceiling- troy tulowitzki
floor- alex gonzalez

Mike olt- kevin youkilis(right now, not when he was really good)
ceiling- ryan zimmerman
floor- mark reynolds

leonys martin- john jay
ceiling- austin jackson
floor- julio borbon

martin perez- jaime garcia
ceiling- wade miley
floor- jason vargas(away from safeco field)

you think profar is Jose Reyes right now!?!?

or is that the most likely scenario

profar is good at defense. i don't think jose reyes is very good at defense. a lot of jose reyes' value comes from stolen bases. is profar known for that?

yeah Reyes is a high contact, average-ish BB rate speedster. Profar is more of a pretty good OB skills, good contact player with good speed and probably a bit more power potential. Reyes obviously has been a top SS for years but they aren't really that similar in skill set.

How can you justify 'numbers' on a kid who has less than 25 AB's in the show? Non-sense. Find your legos and play with them on the dinning room table.

Elvis:
Likely: Ozzie Smith
Ceiling: Ozzie Smith
Floor: Omar Vizquel

Andy, it's the wonderful bon mots like that that make me think I love you. In a baseball hard kind of way.

Jurickson Profar's ceiling is Jurickson Profar. /drops mic

Andy, that might be the simplest & BEST post you've made in the off season.
I agree.
I'll hate to see Elvis traded.
We haven't seen the best of him yet.

Elvis Andrus (entering 5th season):

Ceiling -- 5.0-5.5 fWAR
Floor -- 3.5-4.0 fWAR

Jurickson Profar entering his 5th season:

Ceiling -- 6.0-7.0+ fWAR
Floor -- 3.0-3.5 fWAR