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Forum > Profar starting in AAA a potential concern

I propose this topic not because it's entirey consequential (may actually benefit from another year of a assession and retention) nor because the lineup would be affected by his absence, but because Washington has proven himself obstinate to change. Will Washington incorporate Profar into the lineup on a consistent basis when he's called up, or will have have a repeat of last season's aversion to playing young guys? If Washington's statement of the lineup order comes to fruition (i.e., his intention to leave Kinsler at the top of the order despite diminished returns), who's to say he won't keep Profar planted on the bench? The front office moved Young to prevent Wash from using him as an everyday player, primarily because they don't want to override his on field decisions. Will they step up and infringe upon Wash's duties if he doesn't play Profar?

January 11, 2013 at 4:59 PM | Unregistered CommenterJeff in SD

If everyone plays up to their potential, big if, then it won't matter. Everything will be worked out in time. I doubt we have another Michael Young weighing us down this season. Plugging him in the minors affords JD more time to trade/extend Elvis or trade Kinsler, plus he will probably improve.

January 11, 2013 at 5:06 PM | Unregistered CommenterP1 Stefen

My concern is that everyone "does" play to potential, and it results in Profar not getting burn

January 11, 2013 at 5:12 PM | Unregistered CommenterJeff in SD

Surplus has a way of working itself out whether it be by trade, failure, or change of position. Putting one of the youngest players in AA last year in AAA to be one of the youngest players in AAA next year doesn't cause a problem unless Profar doesn't hit.

January 11, 2013 at 6:33 PM | Unregistered CommenterJKolar

I wanted to see Profar on the 25 for a multitude of reasons: (1) you go with your best 25, (2) he had already passed the big test, success at AA, (3) he is incredibly talented, and that makes tuning into the Rangers games that much more entertaining. But MIKE TROUT last year fitted that same description, and he ended up playing in Salt Lakes first 20 games of the 2012 season. So if Profar goes first to Round Rock, though many twist and turns happen in Spring Training, hopefully he has as much success, and is back to Arlington way before Memorial Day.

January 11, 2013 at 9:21 PM | Unregistered Commenterles

It makes no sense to have Profar on the 25-man roster if he's not going to start. Worry about the best 25 when it becomes necessary, which is why Jurickson was added last year.

January 11, 2013 at 9:31 PM | Unregistered Commentereric reining

looks like they are going to go the route of (and i agree with this)

profar in the minors......and if by the all-star break we are going to make a playoff run then trade him

if we look to be out of playoff contention, trade elvis

either way, come the all-star break i have to think one of them is gone

January 11, 2013 at 9:31 PM | Unregistered Commentertrickydick

Profar and Olt will start in the same manner as Trout did for the Angels. Any questions?

January 11, 2013 at 9:35 PM | Unregistered Commenterozzie33

^

I can't get behind this logic. If we're trying to extend Elvis longterm, Profar should already have been gone. If Profar is our guy, Elvis should have been traded. It's a separate argument, though.

While Profar has a full six years, Elvis only has two. He won't be worth as much come deadline time, and he won't be worth as much after the 2013 season concludes. If we're talking about cost-effective, optimal value, we trade Elvis now, and play Profar @ $480K over the next three years.

January 11, 2013 at 9:38 PM | Unregistered Commentereric reining

Eric a simple point that is easy to understand. In Round Rock he wins no games for the Rangers, in Arlington he does. If for example, two more non-Oakland As games are won in 2012 then the Rangers are in the play-offs as West Division champs not simply a one game wild card. As anyone in the MLB can tell you, every single game counts. And if you perused more carefully you would have understood that I am looking at the most pragmatically, and concede that with Washington etal will start Profar off this season in Arlington, if all goes well at Surprise.

January 11, 2013 at 11:35 PM | Unregistered Commenterles

1) No manager in any situation is going to displace a veteran MLB player with a rookie unless the rookie outplays the veteran....let's get this straight. Washington is not "against" rookie or "new players. Witness Bourbon...Davis...ANDRUS. Wait, you say. Andrus was made in a cocoon and just popped out that way!!! Sorry, guys and sorry to all the Washington haters because he TALKS to the media/people and does not use clipboards and wear geek glasses.

Joey, I will call you out especially because Washington does not hate/refuse to play a new or young player just because they are such. Yes, he puts them in when he has to and not whnn he doesn't. Great job of ignoring press and ignoring what is good for the team.

2)

January 12, 2013 at 12:19 AM | Unregistered CommenterProcurion

Wash, as I keep saying, is a traditionalist. Because of that his moves are predictable, however that it is not a bad thing. Means he goes with what he sees the best 9 for that particular day and makes the logical moves in that game.. I also do not comprehend the continual bashing. All you really ask out of a Manager, is that he gets the best baseball out of his 25. In that, he gets a passing grade, not an A but at least B- of MLB managers.

January 12, 2013 at 9:17 AM | Unregistered Commenterles

I'd say a B- would put him among the top 10 or 15 managers in baseball. I don't hate the guy, but I tend to believe he's one of the 5 worst in the game.

January 12, 2013 at 10:21 AM | Unregistered Commentereric reining

The 5 worse get fired every year unless their front office is the incompetent aspect of the team in question .

January 12, 2013 at 10:35 AM | Unregistered Commenterles

Procurion: Andrus played because Wash was hired with the expectation that Elvis would be his starting SS. He made that promise in order to get the job. And, he struggled, a bit. He was accused of being lackadaisical - he had zero power (gap or otherwise) and he made mistakes. And, you know how much Wash LOVES mistakes!

But, he was there. He WOULD be played or Wash wouldn't get the job. Now that Wash has the job, he's staking out his territory and he won't be put in any more corners by the FO. He is so adamant about that that he often makes decisions to spite the FO to his own detriment.

So, if Profar isn't already a polished product at AAA, the probability that the idiot-in-charge will actually play him is very small.

January 12, 2013 at 2:23 PM | Unregistered CommenterDavid Draggle