Forum > A WINTER + Pus: Morse & Porcello
morse isn't much better than moreland at hitting LHP
wingsofjoy
I would have liked to have gotten Morse before we signed Berkman. Now, I'm not sure if he's a fit. Dude can mash though and I bet he could put up some nice numbers in the Ballpark.
JV
Morse has a career .860 OPS vs LHP. Mitch has a career .621 OPS vs LHP. How is that "not much better" than Mitch?. He would be a great but expensive platoon partner for Mitch and could fill in at a COF spot if/when Nellie ends up injured.
I would love Porcello. I think he could be much better with a much better defense behind him. Just having Beltre and elvis on the left side instead of Cabrera and Peralta would instantly improve his stats
Ryan from Waco
I like Morse, but I can't see where he would fit. Looks like Washington wants a LH reliever and prospect(s) for Morse (according to mlbtraderumors.com), so sending Cruz or Moreland isn't a fit. Where would Morse play? With Murphy and Cruz in the corner OF slots, Berkman at DH, and Moreland at 1B, I don't think there is a place for Morse. Unless Cruz and/or Moreland is being discussed in other trades.
AlanElmore
Seems to me Morse would fit fine. Murphy can't play everyday, nor should Cruz.
Moreland at 1B everyday? Burkman DH everyday? Morse looks very fittable,
even with Upton on far horizon. Moreland & Cruz are going, sooner than later.
Lets face it, we have zero COF on farm. For prox $7mm(?) Morse fits into budget also.
Porcello is going to move out of Detroit. I'd like to see his grounders here at Texas.
He's not raw, but some honing could form a very nice arm for many years, Good + Winter.
Hubz
What I don't understand is why everyone automatically assumes we could get some kind of return for Mitch Moreland. He's entering his age-27 season, so it's not like he's young, and at this point he's pretty much a replacement-level 1st baseman that probably needs a platoon partner because he can't hit lefties.
As for Morse, I'm not particularly interested. He's only got one year left, is a subpar defender, and has an historically low 5.9% career walk rate. We can do better.
eric reining
Not for the $$ the club wants to spend. Plate disipline can change.
No sub for injured OF'r can change a west race. He more than fits.
SlderZ
Not a big fan of Porcello in Texas. Sure, the advantage of Beltre and Andrus on the left side helps him, but the speed of the turf and how the ball flies in Texas won't. We need pitchers who can get Ks or induce lots of weak contact. We'd be better off with what we have IMO.
Brian
I'm thinking a ground ball, mostly, IS a weak contact and less apt to go a four bagger, or xtra base.
Give me a groundball pitcher in the Temple against opponents everytime. Mmm, kinda like G, Maddux.
Hubz
MORSE A BETTER TARGET THEN UPTON:[1] Morse will require much much less in a trade package, [2] Stats over the last three years are about equal, Upton higher obp and scores significantly more [ however, the Rangers are not looking at Upton as a #1 or #2 hole hitter but a #3 or #4], Morse a significant more run production but seldom takes a walk. and [3] the big difference, Morse is due $6.75M for 2013, whereas Upton is due $38.5M over the next three years.[4] The Rangers seem fixated on Upton, believing he has high upside. But upside means absolutely nothing if it is not materialized !! And so far in his career, all that can be said is modest success. [5] Upton is a better defender, can even play center field, but Morse, though does not overwhelm in the outfield, came up first as a 6'5" shortstop, and can still play either corner in the infield.
les
Maybe we should just platoon every position?
J2
The Rangers should be in on Morse, land him tell Arizona the offer for Upton has been reduced!
Ric
I'd rather have Morse & Porcello, than Bourn & Lohse. I haven't heard any talk about moving
Moreland in trade, but if he's found nonproductive, Morse could certainly fill that 1B hole. I
also don't see a problem platooning RH Morse/LH Moreland. Porcelllo, being a starter, will
bring higher dividends to Tigers, but nothing the Rangers can't afford to give up, Good future #3.
PT
How about a three way trade, the Tigers need a defensive wiz at shortstop, the Nats want to treat Morse, who has earned full time play, right and trade him knowing there is currently not a starting slot for him, and the Rangers could use MORSE and a #5 starter. I am not high on Porcello, but a quality starter with major league success is always worth having on your team. I am not suggesting trading Andrus, unless alone he can obtain both Morse and Porcello. A wild scenario that in a way puts LA, both , as a distant #w choice for the World Series. Detroit signs Soriano to close. Then a three way trade: Detroit trade- Boesch, Crosby, Prorcelloa and Rondon; the Nats trade Morse; and the Rangers trade Andrus, Borbon and Cruz. WHO goes where: the Tigers get Andrus and Cruz [Andrus seals the deal for the Tigers, and makes Peralta super-U and Cruz goes TO left as right handed bat to Berry and Dirks] ; the Nats: Crosby [L] and Rondon in the bullpen and Borbon to take over as #4 outfielder. The Rangers get PORCELLO as #5 starter, Morse to play a corner outfield [ with loads of defensive assistance from Gentry] and Boesch in the mix. This also clears short for Profar. THOUGHTS?
les
Are you freaking crazy...Elvis for Porcello and Morse. LMAO
Coach
COACH, then you work out a three way trade that satisfies all three teams. Like I posed, I am not in favor of moving Andrus or that high on Porcello, but it would get the deal done and get the Rangers their #5 starter and bat they are only marginally still looking for, and allow Profar to take over short.
les
You dont give Andrus away to get a #5 starter and a marginal bat...those are a dime a dozen. We have that already. Only use Andrus as blue chip for another blue chip. Trade elite for elite; not elite for middle of road average players.
Coach


NOT the Big Bat or Big Arm, as expected, but...
Morse kills LHP and slots into COF or 1B, with a needed Middle Bat.
Porcello slots in easily at #5. Big ground ball arm, with project mode from
the Maddux Bros.
Fill in the bench and bull pen and call it a successful winter? Takes the heat
off moving Cruz or waiting for Kevin Towers smokey Upton Deal to break.
Maybe we'll get more calls on Cruz too?
Both affordble, moveable and young enough to work into our 25man roster.