What is your opinion of the A.J. Pierzynski signing?
MJH on accountability
Read this a while back and thought I'd share its on Stanton and what some officials agree is his value:http://sports.yahoo.com/news/mlb--giancarlo-stanton-should-be-on-trading-block--ndash--now--ndash--if-marlins-were-serious-about-rebuilding----065740919.html
And his scouting report( very interesting):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DtA0IxD6Tg
Passan is right on. Texas has the power to pull this off without compromising their future, something many teams probably can't do.
Unfortunately, it probably won't happen, and mostly because Loria is a boob.
It may happen more likely than not. Daniels posturing, by holding tight to Elvis & Profar, are key.As much as we would like to see a trade happening, a waiting game for Upton and /or Stanton,will benefit the Rangers in the long run. Relly, did Cody Ross or Nick Swisher "DO IT" for you?
Maybe the waiting game works on Upton but I dont think Itll work for getting Stanton. I think the only way the Marlins will trade stanton is if they get a tremendous haul like it was mentioned in the article NOW. We all now his trade value will decline over time due to years of control and that will only make him harder to obtain. If you had a superstar of Stanton's caliber I doubt you will trade him after his value diminishes thats like waiting for your stock to go down just to sell it, wouldnt you rather hang on to him and make him the face of the franchise for the next 4 years and make money off of him or wait for him to have an MVP season so his value rises once more. Sure, as Rangers fans we would like to see the best case scenario for us but you have to see t through their eyes too. And I feel the Rangers should go all in for him now because sure you might blow up the farm for the next 2-3 years for him but you have him for 4 more years and the roster we have now can give us 3-4 more years of productivity while we rebuild the farm and develop our lower level prospects.
It's Jim Bowden but...
@JimBowdenESPNxmDan Jennings Marlins AGM told us they will listen to all offers on Giancarlo Stanton but they're not shopping him and don't want to move him
Bowden is someone I trust that has sources. What I don't trust is his evaluations. Personally I think the guy shows why he's not been a MLB GM for a while with pretty much every trade he proposes.
At least they are listening the right offer can and will get him it will have to be huge though. But at least they arent being stubborn and just saying no no matter what.
Cole, does anyone go to Marlins games. I say do what it takes NOW.
The problem with waiting too long is that Upton ends up on a Cub, Phillie, or even Indian team, or worse for the Rangers, Mariners, RedSox or even the Yankees. Same for Stanton. In a trade in-action equates to no action, it even explains to some degree why Josh is now in Anaheim.
Yes we should do it now!!!!! And even if the attendance is low its like saying trade longoria because noone shows up? and on the Bowden statement they said they dont want to move him thats a big difference from wont move him.
Most don't have the trade pieces to acquire an Upton or Stanton. Texas can wait... we have the trade value.Upton is not the Offensive juggernaut as Satanton, but Stanton is not the Defensive player as Upton.I doubt Daniels see's the "Automatic DO IT" on either player, as some in here view. It's not black & white.
Wow. Lot of "DO IT NOW!"s. Mortgage everything! Throw the franchise at the Marlins and see if they bite!
Heh. I have an idea Giancarlo will do some leveraging on his side so that, if we just wait, the Marlins will eventually go out just to see what the best package they can get for him...
JD's playing his cards exactly right. If someone else nabs him, good for them. If we mortgage the farm for him and his balky knee ends up blowing out, we'd be in an aweful position.
@Obi: Upton's UZRs for his 6 years are -0.8, -8.4, 7.7, 5.5, 7.7, and -2.1, or a total of 9.6 - trending upward but with a step backward last year. Stanton's UZRs are 8.7, 3.2, and 9.3. Stanton's defense is arguably better than Upton's. And we already know his offensive ceiling is higher.
No doubt that Stanton is more valuable than Upton, but it's hard to say that his ceiling is much higher. Upton's ceiling is as a generational player as well, it's just that he's revealed the last two years that he might not ever reach it.
It's all about cost- if Profar is the difference in cost between Upton and Stanton, give me profar and Upton and let's go to bat. If the difference is Olt, then Stanton it is...
Then again, the odds are that we end up with neither.
Last year not last 2 years. In 2011, upton was an MVP candidate. But 2010 was mediocre. If anything, Upton has proven to just be inconsistent from year to year as opposed to not ever reaching his potential IMO (up years in odd years, down years in even years for whatever reason).
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