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Signing 37 yr old catchers? Really?? How demoralized Rangerdom must be. A one year fix-good grief! Terribly disheartening to say the least. And a universally despised 37 yr old at that. Only a trade for Stanton could save this offseason. But that cant happen because our FO overvalues its prospects. SAD

December 20, 2012 at 10:31 PM | Unregistered CommenterJDB

So I'm guessing you were down with Eli Whiteside getting 60+ starts?

December 20, 2012 at 10:42 PM | Unregistered CommenterMrMan

Please leave and never come back.

December 20, 2012 at 10:54 PM | Unregistered CommenterRomeo212000

When you constantly bitch and moan and rarely if ever contribute anything of value to the forum nobody is interested in your "opinions".

December 20, 2012 at 11:07 PM | Unregistered CommenterRomeo212000

I like the AJP signing. Since he just had a strong season, I don't see much risk in a one-year deal despite the fact he's passed 35. I see value in the fact that the Rangers were in dire need of a C, and added value in the fact he hits LH (especially with a lineup losing one of its few LH hitters with Hamilton's defection). At the right price, and with a bit of luck, this could be a great addition.

December 20, 2012 at 11:18 PM | Unregistered Commenteransel

There is the slight problem of the Marlins thus far refusing to trade Stanton at all. But by all means go ahead and spin it so that the Rangers are at fault, since you have inside knowledge of the conversations between the two teams.

For the record AJ is almost 36, not 37, though embellishment always strengthens your "contributions." And you can call him a "one year fix" but keep in mind the alternative strategy is to sign guys like Napoli and Russell Martin to long-term deals of questionable value. I personally think the Rangers made a very shrewd sign with AJP. But if you're of the mind that the sky is falling because they didn't drop $147 million on a #2 starter or trade top prospects for Shields or Dickey (two years older than AJP) then you probably don't see it that way.

December 20, 2012 at 11:27 PM | Unregistered CommenterJondar

Good rebuttal. I would like to opine that the earth is flat. I need not back it up with a coherent argument, for it's just my opinion.

December 20, 2012 at 11:45 PM | Unregistered CommenterJondar

@JDP
Your opinion has some validity, but if your going to squirm a little, look at his stats. They hold up
quite well. The ability to catch 135 games a year is astonishing, year in year out. Jackie Moore &
Jim Sundberg had some nice, very positive input on AJ, if you're ever able to talk to either or both.

December 21, 2012 at 12:21 AM | Unregistered CommenterHubz

Hey, we're all JD's in here. No need to apologize. Maybe a solution would be appropriate?
We've all had our necks stuck out and chopped off. Is there a Catcher in mind, worthy of starting
on a high caliber team, as Texas? I mean, whomever, needs to make the team better, right?

December 21, 2012 at 1:20 AM | Unregistered CommenterHubz

You can think whatever you want but you just come off as reactionary and unwilling to defend your claims because you probably can't.

December 21, 2012 at 3:06 AM | Unregistered CommenterJondar

"You can think whatever you want but you just come off as reactionary and unwilling to defend your claims because you probably can't."

This exactly.. you chose to post your opinion for the world to see but you aren't willing to defend it? e.g. who says he's universally despised? what's wrong with a one-year fix? what's so bad about a 36 year old catcher with his numbers, especially when compared to the alternative?

December 21, 2012 at 4:28 AM | Unregistered CommenterG

JDB change your name to SOB you troll

December 21, 2012 at 7:21 AM | Unregistered CommenterFminus

It's good to have a LH bat with pop in the lineup no doubt. Heck we could use another one. I don't think either of our catchers are good defensively, especially throwing potential base runners out. Of course the pitching staff bears alot of responsibility since we're probably the worst in the league as a staff at holding runners on. I keep thinking the Maddux bros.being as good a coach's as we keep hearing will help improve on this glaring weakness. One can only hope...

December 21, 2012 at 7:44 AM | Unregistered CommenterRoy

A one-year fix is better than no fix at all.

December 21, 2012 at 7:58 AM | Unregistered CommenterDDan

go back to the tff

December 21, 2012 at 7:58 AM | Unregistered Commenter903er

I hate it when school is out!

December 21, 2012 at 8:49 AM | Unregistered Commenterlwayne

You're allowed an opinion but when it's really stupid you should keep it to yourself.

December 21, 2012 at 9:51 AM | Unregistered CommenterJon Daniels

Are you the same guy that's been banned from here repeatedly?

Also, we could do a lot worse than A.J. I'm content with this.

December 21, 2012 at 10:19 AM | Unregistered CommenterAndy

Isn't going into 2013 with AJP and Soto as your catchers about like going in with Napoli and Torrealba? I take that back, it's cheaper and without a long-term commitment. BTW, I think Soto will be more of a contributor this season than people expect.

December 21, 2012 at 10:30 AM | Unregistered CommenterDDan

Signing AJP was by far the best catcher scenario, especially for initially a one year contract. The Rangers are getting an All-Star catcher, that Washington had to even apologize last year for not being on the team, AJP may have had a power out liner 2012, or he may be headed toward a 30+ homer producer, especially at Arlington. He also is a though batter to strike out, that alone will put more balls in play from the left side than Josh' 162 stri9kes outs last season. He, however is not a #3 hole mbatter, and the Rangers need to go for Morneau or LaRoche or Ethier or even back to Upton. Morneau would take a prospect trade, and is due $14 for 2013, last year of his 5-year deal, LaRoche to sign away from Washington would surrender a draft choice and take a 3-year deal of $39-45 range, Ethier would cost Olt ++. But a deal of such, would protect Beltre, create a more balance L-R lineup, on a par with last years offense. However, currently the Rangers do not have a solid #3 hole bat without moving Beltre up. Who should bat third. on the team now or projected?
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December 21, 2012 at 10:36 AM | Unregistered Commenterles

JDB,

Apology accepted!

In the future please never voice your opinions here.

It really is that simple, you are smarter than you think. So now we can all go on our marry way. You can go through the door labeled "Exit, your opinions aren't welcome here" and we will go on expressing our opinions minus your presence. Everyone will be happier that way.

December 21, 2012 at 11:40 AM | Unregistered CommenterThe Judge

Marry way? One of those well intentioned paved roads to hell?

December 21, 2012 at 12:09 PM | Unregistered Commenterprimi timpano

Offseason has been a roller coaster, but chemistry issues aside (time will tell on that one) this seems to be a smart sign. Better than Napoli (as much as I love the guy) for 3 yr $13 mm per. We still need some corner outfield pop, whether through trade or Ross/Swisher.

December 21, 2012 at 1:19 PM | Unregistered CommenterTG

This really was about as good as they could have hoped for after missing out on plans A-H. AJP is passable, in our park his offense should play at least as well as it did in US Cellular, but he's yet another guy that is mediocre at best in neutral ballparks. We have too many of those types. At this rate we are going to have to play a lot of 3-2 games on the road. But anyone that may call this a bad signing isn't being objective. It's a nice throwaway contract. And if this team tanks, he's a bat a contending team may trade off something decent to obtain.

Now if you want to talk about bad signings, how about Francisco Liriano for 2 years and 14 mil.

December 21, 2012 at 1:56 PM | Unregistered CommenterPitch

This thread should be deleted. JDB is a known troll (probably Jim, too) and isn't worth half a sh*t. Move along.

December 21, 2012 at 2:34 PM | Unregistered CommenterTxball