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Haven't seen this elsewhere yet, and "family source" sounds a bit iffy, but...yeah
According to a report from KRISTV in Corpus Christi, Texas, the Phillies have agreed to a three-year, $18 million contract with reliever Mike Adams.
The report cites a family source. Adams was born in Corpus Christi and attended nearby Texas A&M Kingsville.
It's happening: Tim Brown @TBrownYahooPhillies, Mike Adams close on two-year deal with vesting option. Club expects deal to happen. Could be as soon as tomorrow.
Yeah I read the same thing. Losing all of our free agents after some pretty great years probably doesn't sit well in the clubhouse. I know I'd be pissed knowing the roster isn't World Series, let alone playoff caliber anymore. Interesting days lie ahead, whether we stand pat or make some trades.
You have no idea how much this does effect the clubhouse, It's devastating to see players drop off one by one.After coming off two loses in the World Series, then blowing the 2012 season the last 3 weeks. It's a cold winter.You can bet the players are talking as much as we are...questions on keeping focused, in lue of winning the winter.New leadership will come early this year. Many are thinking if the club will go in a less champ focus and rebuild.Young players are nervous, hoping not to hear "that phone call" ... you've been traded. All are counting the days.
"You have no idea how much this does effect the clubhouse"
PROTIP: Neither do you.
Adams is aging, injured, and noticeably regressing. I'm pretty confident (now without Josh) that no Ranger is enough of a mental midget to get overly attached in the clubhouse to a bullpen guy who was only here for 14 months. And nobody is "counting the days" until they're traded. This isn't Miami, Minnesota, Oakland, Cleveland, etc.
@JondarIt doesn't take a leap of faith to say players are upset. Adams is one of the top set-up men in baseball and we're not just talking about him. Napoli, who earned everyone's respect playing through a pretty gruesome injury, Koji, played great last year, and Hamilton, arguably the best player in the game when he's gone. These guys have enough skins on the wall for vets to be leary of all these young guys trying to do there best to vill the void. They're human just like you and me....and if it's me, I'm furious.
its not nessecarily losing adams that hurts its the overall narrative of the offseason a lack of moves(yeah I know we have time but still) that frustrates the fan base a week and a half ago we thought we might have a club with grienke and upton now we have an 85 win team if it stays healthy and assuming martin/olt/profar all perform, its just a depressing offseason so far
If we signed all of those players that left, it would add about 61 million dollars to our payroll for next year. I think the team realizes that that isn't possible. They understand that sometimes other teams offer more money. Mike Napoli and Josh Hamilton were overpaid. We will have good, cheaper options for Adams and Koji. It sucks, but it will be fine.
I believe we might be moving on from Adams at the right time. I am worried about the bullpen. Damn, I miss Koji already. That is the one FA signing loss that I simply didn't understand.
They were saying on the ticket that koji wanted out of here. Apparantely he doesn't like Yu.
I agree with Christian. I'm not frustrated by missing out on any 1 of these guys, more missing on all of them. Really curious to see what moves they make the offseason. Not a huge fan of some of the moves they haven't made.
Yeah, signing big FAs really worked well the last couple of years. That's why LAA and PHI met in the series...right?
Surely OAK and SF can't be any good because they didn't sign any big name guys...right?
Ugh. We care a lot more than the players do about keeping the band together. I don't think Adrian Beltre will be thinking about Josh or Koji while he's shagging grounders next year.
Adams inability to hold runners, first batter walks, ineffective control with a base steal threat on base, and refusal to alter his extremely slow deliberate motion along with his surgery made Adams a GIANT risk at any price. I believe too many are overstating the losses we have seen.
Rather than looking at the collective of players, it's better to look at each move in isolation.
Josh Hamilton: 5 years, $125 million (too long, too much)Mike Napoli: 3 years, $39 million (too long, too much)Koji Uehara: 1 year, $4.25 million (not sure why we didn't try harder)Ryan Dempster: 2 years, $26.5 million (too much for a #4)Mike Adams: 2 years, $12 million, 3rd-year option (multiple years for relievers is risky)
Also, to add on to Adams, he had an injury (thoracic outlet?). I believe it's questionable he will even be healthy enough to start the season on the roster. Combine that to a pretty clear decline in his work in 2012 as compared to '11, and we're talking about another smart pass Jon Daniels made.
Napoli could have been offered 1/$13.3 and at least brought a comp pick. Adams had a rib removed, not an elbow, arm, shoulder issue. Soria, who we signed had TJ surgery and won't be ready for start of season.Missed Greinke on an opt out clause the Dodgers gave him (according to Evan Grant).
@JondarNot to dis, but really, get a grip. Don't point fingers, ok? "Food for Thought": There are many many x-players AND players that live in the DFW area. They are neighbors,church organizers, buy houses, furniture and cars, etc. Thier wives even talk over the fence. Share coffee & tea, during the day. Surprise, wives love to shop! They go to the local Kroger & corner Starbucks.To think, some players love to play golf and most have a regular foursome they are comfortable with. Hey, they're (most) normal folks and are not pretentious bean counters calculating thier WAR. There's a lot of buddy info filtering through normal soctial interaction. Jondar, it just seems you're not apart of it.
Original Statement:Yes, the players are feeling uncomfortable also. Reread my above statement- take it as a grain of salt, if you will.
It was Thoracic Outlet Syndrome.
They're probably all smart long term moves, but it just adds insult to injury. Players don't care about 4 years from now, especially the Beltre, Kinsler and Nathan's of this team.
About Koji. It was told to Galloway-ESPN that Koji didn't like the way Yu treated his elder teammates and other Japanese, such as his visiting ex-coaches, sports figures etc. last spring training. A nod of the head instead of bows and conversation and the proper respect. You wouldn't think that would turn the table ....
But Koji is kind of an out-there dude. You've got to like his passion. He's very outspoken in Japan against the posting system and everything else regarding baseball. He pulled no punches about disliking the heat here. Likable guy, fun to follow his blog and try to make out what he is talking about, usually interesting. Eats most of his meals at Hooters. Stayed at an Arlington hotel in his time here and it didn't seem like he embraced the area like Yoshi seemed to. I can't figure out whether Koji really cried after losses or if that was just an expression in translation on his blog.
I remember he liked Fenway a lot and would post pictures of it. Wouldn't be surprised if that was why he picked Boston. That kind of dude it seems to me.
"Counting the days", Sir, meaning... untill Spring Training, duh.
Will miss Koji a lot and Adams a little. Agree with lwayne about holding runners; Rangers will need more defense and Adams allows too many runners to steal
are we poor? have jd and nolan been going to dave ramsey meetings? maybe we are saving money for a roof over the ballpark.
@ericYes, well aware what it was. As I said he had the rib removed "that was causing the nerve issue". It wasn't an arm or shoulder issue it was a rib and nerve issue.
Did you all not see that the Rangers signed Joakim Soria? A Soria-Nathan back end is pretty damned good.
Again, it's not the specific case of losing Adams, it's that no one who has played on the Rangers and become a FA has wanted to stay here. That's why I'm opposed to trading for any player we'll only get a year out of (or maybe 2), because chances are very good we won't be re-signing them. People can only pretend this isn't an issue for so long by writing off each individual player as "too old," "Too many inuries," etc - players that took the team to the World Series and, in some cases, two World Series.
Perhaps they better trade Elvis after all if they can't lock him up this off-season or before the trade deadline.
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