What is your opinion of the A.J. Pierzynski signing?
MJH on accountability
Crap, hope this doesn't go down!
Was getting pumped about him in a Rangers uni. Guess it can still happen, but there hasn't been any type of rumor on anyone getting "close" on a deal for Greinke.
I've said a dozen times on these forums:It'll never happen. (Greinke here).
I'll be happy to be called a fool.
Why can the Rangers never seem to sign the top pitcher available? I was hoodwinked again (Lee a couple of years ago is still fresh in my memory), never will I have hope again in the FA market. They will need to get their "ace" by developing. Darvish may be that ace soon, but Greinke would have been nice to go along with him.
Why doesn't a young free agent pitcher sign here? You probably already know the answers.
- 108 degrees at first pitch- a wind vortex that funnels batted balls over the right field wall like they were shot from a battleship cannon- high density altitude that decreases drag on the baseball......more home runs-a franchise reputation for being focused on offense- a desire to get another big contract
I hope one day the Dodgers are crippled by horrible contracts and they fail to ever make it past the first round in the playoffs.
Want to win a Cy Young while pitching in Arlington....riiiiight.Want to get to Cooperstown after playing 5 years here? Uh, sure you do....with that 1.2 ERA inflation you'll likely see. Want to win respect from fans, media and fellow players as a top ace?
It's just not a good career move, unless you are at the end of your career and hope to ride the Rangers to a title.
Besides...even with our additional revenue...there are a few teams with even deeper pockets.
All good points.
2 straight WS appearances I thought would count for something this time around. Meaning, if the Rangers were competitive on the contract, then Greinke was ours. I think we were in the same ballpark with the Phillies on Lee, he just flat out didn't want to play here.
From what I have read (all rumors, sure), we were 20-30 million under the Dodgers offer. So all of the negatives you pointed out about playing in Texas may not have mattered if the Rangers would have matched. Maybe in the long run it will be a good thing they didn't match the offer, but still disappointing right now.
Californication taxes will eat him alive. I'd guess $20,000,000 more at a minimum and maybe as much as $30,000,000. Cost of living is considerably more too. Hard to run with all that ham on your back.
Pitching in L.A. will help his ERA...maybe as much as .5. Pitching in Arlington would have had the opposite effect. Even had we been close...he would be a Dodger.
Copypasta from another thread but... Aside from his 2.16 ERA in 2009 Greinke is a career 4.06 pitcher. The last 3 seasons he's posted a 3.83 ERA which is just barely ahead of Colby Lewis but worse than fringe "aces" like Shields, Sanchez, Buchholz, and 2s-4s like Lohse, Marcum, Garza, and a full run higher in that time period than Josh Johnson.
He brings consistency, but unless he returns to 2009 form at some point I don't know how you justify that contract. I'm not crying myself to sleep about missing out on Greinke. However if we don't get one of Shields/Upton I will be pretty disappointed. I believe it's also time to bite the bullet and give Josh the 4/$108 or whatever was reported.
taxes mean diddly when ur pulln $25 million per year.Cost of living??? Ha, who cares. He'll light his Stogey with Benjamins... daily!!!TY, he's not in the AL West
HubZ, is that you?
So much for the Dodgers being out of it. So much for Nolan and the Maddux brothers blowing Grienke away with their combined pitching acumen. So much for the world-beater line-up we are putting together here that Grienke was going to ride to 10 straight WS titles. So much for the Rangers being the center of the baseball universe this offseason. Yeah. So lets spend that Grienke money on Josh and trade start making trades.
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