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Probably not actually new, but I would be almost gleeful to send MY to NY since they can't find a workable 3B option. They're a WS contender, they can utilize him as a DH, and we can handicap one of our rivals. What's not to love?
TR Sullivan apparently just hinted that something like this was being discussed, or at least thought about. I would wonder if it would be possible to use Young as part of a trade for Granderson. With the Yankees actually operating on a budget this year they would likely need salary relief to accommodate much of Young's paycheck and still have room to make other moves. With Granderson and Young making comparable money this year (and both being in the last year of their respective contracts) that would seem to match up nicely. Obviously we would also have to include a decent bit more talent going their direction to make up for the fact that Granderson is simply a better player than Young but the Yankees do seem like one of the few teams remaining that might actually see value in him. Perhaps something along the lines of Young, Martin, and Buckel (both of whom made it into our BA top 10 prospects list) with us eating maybe 6-7 mil of Young's salary could work. It would give the Yankees room to make other moves and we'd essentially be getting Granderson for about 8 mil in additional payroll for this season without sacrificing long term flexibility.
What's crazier is that TR Sullivan blog post about trading Young was mysteriously taken down shortly thereafter.
If we deal with the Yankees I'd like to get back one of their young arms (Phelps maybe) or Austin Romine. No interest in Granderson if we're also sending money and prospects that way. Too much.
Even the Yankees won't take on Young's entire salary. It seems they're dead-set on getting under the cap this season.
Evan Grant appears to have finished what Sullivan started:
NASHVILLE, Tenn. – In 2004, Michael Young replaced Alex Rodriguez as the Rangers’ shortstop. Some eight years later, might he replace Rodriguez in the New York Yankees’ infield?
According to two sources, the Rangers are serious enough about a potential trade of Young that they’ve approached his camp about possibly waiving his no-trade rights. The newest target may be the New York Yankees. The Yankees lost Rodriguez for at least part of 2013 due to offseason hip surgery and need a third baseman. In addition, they could use a potential option at shortstop to split time with Edwin Nunez if Derek Jeter isn’t ready to start the season. The Yankees also lost backup third baseman Eric Chavez to free agency; Chavez reportedly agreed to a deal with the Arizona Diamondbacks Wednesday.
Because he has 10 years in the majors including the last five with the same club, Young has complete no-trade protection and would have to give his approval to any deal. In the past when the Rangers and Young have butted heads over switching positions, the Yankees have held some attractiveness to Young, but there has not been a real fit for him in New York. The Rodriguez situation could change all that.
The other problem in dealing Young is his salary. He will earn $16 million in 2013 and is a free agent after the year. The Rangers would have to be willing to eat the majority of his salary, perhaps as much as $12-13 million, and they’d probably get little in return.
We are now at DEFCON 2.
I agree Henchman that Granderson isn't ideal but I think that's largely due to the amount of money he's due. If we could get him for half his current salary, which we would accomplish by trading Young as part of the deal, he would be a real value. Plus taking him back is likely the only way the Yankees will take on much of what Young is owed. As far as what we'd give up, I really don't think Martin and Buckel would be too much though perhaps you could get NY to take on more than half of Young's salary in that situation.
Another interesting possibility would be if we could include Cruz as well. He would rake in NY when healthy and is likely better than anything else available on the open market plus he's another guy with only one year left on his contract. Perhaps he would hold enough value for the Yankees to take back all the salary if we also included someone like Buckel/Grimm and Scheppers. It would be interesting to see what kind of impact essentially gaining 11 million in salary room could have in terms of off-season deals and whether or not that would be enough to possibly sign both Hamilton and Greinke (though admittedly I'm well into pipe-dream territory by this point...fun to imagine though).
This is me not holding my breath. I don't care which team it is or how little we'd be getting in return. If we could move Young and create a $3M-$4M savings while we're at it, Jon Daniels should do it. And Michael Young, despite his 10-5 rights, would almost assuredly waive them for an opportunity to get regular playing time. If the Rangers have indeed approached his camp about trading him, you'd clearly have to think they've already had discussions with him about having a significantly reduced role in 2013.
No way this works. No. Frickin'. Way.
Young for Granderson would solve a lot of issues. It would eleminate Young taking up more than his share of at bats and Granderson is a true lead off and move Kinsler down where he belongs.
If it's Young for Granderson, no way I'd send anything else to the Yankees along with him. We aren't the Kansas City A's.
@arnrob Granderson is a flawed player whose numbers have been greatly inflated by playing in that joke little league park in NY, but he's still considerably more valuable than Mr. 6-4-3. I think the reality is that if the Yankees are going to seriously take Young off our hands, the Rangers will have to A) eat a lot of salary OR B) include a mid-grade prospect, but hopefully not both. Granderson has 86 homers the last 2 years... we can flip him to another team later, even if we have to eat some of that salary too (Simpson/Davis will cut the check).
Granderson destroys RHP, but he's the complete opposite vs. lefties. (Oh well) If he or Josh is at CF/LF, our lineup would pack some serious punch. If Josh or Kinsler would learn some 1B, Murphy could enter the lineup. Just filthy and tons of flexibility.
That's some major firepower. Just ridiculous writing it out. I don't care if I am being presumptuous.
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