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Forum > Possible 4 Team Trade in Works

Per Bob Nughtengale:
“@BNightengale: The #Dbacks, #rangers, #indians and #rays have reopened talks of possible 4 team trade involving likes of Shields,Upton,Cabrera”

Assuming the Rangers do in fact keep Elvis and Profar, how the hell does this get done? I saw Kinsler's name being floated in this trade yesterday from some writers and possibly Holland.

Texas receives:
Upton
Shields

Arizona receives:
Cabrera
Holland

Tampa receives:
Bauer
Sardinas
Borbon

Cleveland receives:
Kinsler
Olt
Perez

My mind is about to explode and my work productivity has been shot this week. The Rangers need to hurry the hell up. Does this even work?! Ahhhhh

December 5, 2012 at 10:52 AM | Unregistered CommenterP1 Stefen

What does Cleveland want with Kinsler, when they have Kipnis, who is much cheaper?

That said, I think I like the rest of this. Pretty good all around.

December 5, 2012 at 11:19 AM | Unregistered CommenterAndy

Teams are contacting about Holland...this is like the climax of the movie and you just can't wait to see what is going to happen. SO MUCH IS GOING ON! Four team trades involving the Rangers/ Rangers still trying to get Upton/ Rangers going after Shields/ Watch out for Rangers on Grienke this afternoon/ Hamilton contract on "hold"/ Teams calling about Holland/ Teams calling about Olt...ITS ALL TOO MUCH!

December 5, 2012 at 11:24 AM | Unregistered CommenterFajita

Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN
As we reported late yesterday afternoon, Arizona is the middle of this four-team talk; they would be getting Asdrubal Cabrera for SS.

Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN
One of the teams involved in the four-team Ariz-Cle deal is the Kansas City Royals. Not sure about the form yet.


Holland to KC? Wil Myers to TB? Shields to TEX? Well that would make 5 teams so maybe the Rays are just being cut out of this.

December 5, 2012 at 11:33 AM | Unregistered CommenterJondar

@Jondar: You can't cut the Rays out- they have Shields!

December 5, 2012 at 11:43 AM | Unregistered CommenterBZ

@BZ Yeah I know I really want Shields but Buster Olney is pretty solid. I hope it's a 5 team deal if that's what it takes to get Upton AND Shields here. The Rays need something good though so I think that's where KC comes in with Myers in return for pitching (Holland, Perez, Moore, Archer, Masterson, or whatever).

December 5, 2012 at 12:03 PM | Unregistered CommenterJondar

@BZ Yeah I know I really want Shields but Buster Olney is pretty solid. I hope it's a 5 team deal if that's what it takes to get Upton AND Shields here. The Rays need something good though so I think that's where KC comes in with Myers in return for pitching (Holland, Perez, Moore, Archer, Masterson, or whatever).

December 5, 2012 at 12:04 PM | Unregistered CommenterJondar

@BZ Yeah I know I really want Shields but Buster Olney is pretty solid. I hope it's a 5 team deal if that's what it takes to get Upton AND Shields here. The Rays need something good though so I think that's where KC comes in with Myers in return for pitching (Holland, Perez, Moore, Archer, Masterson, or whatever).

December 5, 2012 at 12:05 PM | Unregistered CommenterJondar

Yeah you're right Andy, I put this together on a whim. We could probably sub Gentry or L. Martin's name for Kinsler. My preference would be to include Gentry and keep Martin, then use Kinsler in a super IF/OF/DH Utility role. Ship Cruz and Young off for a bucket of balls and we would be pretty set, especially if the dream of Hamilton and Greinke materializes.

December 5, 2012 at 12:09 PM | Unregistered CommenterP1 Stefen

They could deal with the Rays separately.

December 5, 2012 at 12:10 PM | Unregistered CommenterAndy

@Andy If Olt is going to CLE and Elvis/Jurk are off the table I don't know how we could satisfy TB's demands and get Shields. Perez and Murphy probably won't do it... they just signed Loney so maybe they're not interested in Moreland (even though they should be because Loney is terrible)... Buckel? Garcia? Ogando? I just don't know.

December 5, 2012 at 12:32 PM | Unregistered CommenterJondar

This is from TR Sullivan today:

The Rangers are talking to the Diamondbacks about OF Justin Upton. There could be a multiple team trade that includes the Indians. The Rangers would likely have to give up IF Mike Olt. Many teams are asking about Olt.

The Ranger are also still talking to the Mets about R.A. Dickey, who would love to come back to Texas.

The Rangers don’t think Tampa Bay is serious about trading James Shields, but would love to have him.

Stay Tuned

December 5, 2012 at 12:58 PM | Unregistered CommenterJondar

@Jondar if it is truly a 5 team deal we wont be the only team giving pieces to TB, most likely they will get a piece from another team which would make them happier. That's the beautyof multiple team trades when you get them worked out...everyone gets what they want.

December 5, 2012 at 1:35 PM | Unregistered CommenterFajita

@Jondar if it is truly a 5 team deal we wont be the only team giving pieces to TB, most likely they will get a piece from another team which would make them happier. That's the beautyof multiple team trades when you get them worked out...everyone gets what they want.

December 5, 2012 at 1:35 PM | Unregistered CommenterFajita

Tampa just traded for Escobar. They don't need a SS. They probably want some combination of offense/salary relief/prospects.

December 5, 2012 at 1:56 PM | Unregistered CommenterTxball