What is your opinion of the A.J. Pierzynski signing?
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Mind you I haven't followed him very closely, but his stat sheet at Triple-A is pretty full to the tune of .359/.422/.610 last year and his numbers the year before weren't too shabby either. Those stand up to anyone in the minors. Given his great play, why aren't people talking him up? Is it bc of his age at 24? His injuries? Only 2 years of American pro ball? It's not like Wash gave him much of a shot when he was up here. I want Meyers just as much as the next guy, but why no love for Leonys? Shouldn't people be gushing about him too? Even the Rangers are said to be "looking" for a CF. What does the guy have to do to get some respect?
No clue. I've been preaching this guy for a while. I think he should platoon CF with Gentry next year.
He sure has a purdy swing.
I can only think if he was 21 or 22 he would be one of the best prospects in baseball, forcing his way on the MLB roster, with every beat writer in Dallas all over him. Doesn't make a whole hell of a lot of sense. Everyone needs to take a step back from Profar and give this some love. He deserves it.
Assuming no Josh (who, let's be honest, was becoming a liability in CF even before he dropped that pop-up) next year, a platoon with Martin and Gentry seems most likely. Neither Murphy nor Cruz nor any other rumored trade targets (like Upton) should be playing CF regularly. I'm not terribly high on Victorino and I'd rather see the Rangers pay for other positions than pick up Pagan or Bourn (no offense to them) or someone like that. They might as well see what Martin's got at MLB, he has nothing left to prove in the minors.
Really, I can't imagine CF is higher than 5th on their priority list, behind starting and relief pitching, catcher, and possibly 1B. That doesn't mean they can't be "looking" for a CF, anyway. They're probably still "looking" at Upton, who's obviously not a CF.
I sure have been arguing for the Rangers to roll with him. He can provide average defense, with above ave pop for a CF.
Amen! The guy absolutely obliterated AAA last year but just didn't really have a good opportunity to command the CF job. He has gotten a grand total of 54 ABs in the bigs. It would be an absolute travesty to not give him a chance to be an every day player.
I agree with everyone here. Why pursue another OF and not even give Leonys a chance?
It's obvious that the Rangers want to get a 3 hole hitter if they can. (i.e. asking about J Upton, CarGo, etc.) But Martin has to be given an opportunity to play.
I agree Leonys deserves a shot, especially ahead of washed up guys like Victorino who have been mentioned around here. However I'd still be in on BJ Upton for the right price. A year from now we could be looking at the departure of Cruz and/or Murphy, and BJ can play any OF spot for the next few years, plus he profiles more as a #3 hitter than Martin (at present time) and with Hamilton likely gone we will need someone to set the table for Beltre. Well, assuming we don't get the other Upton first.
It's not that we have no faith in Martin and aren't going to give him a chance, it's just that we only have 4 OF'ers now (assuming Hammy goes) so adding one is essential. We need a guy that can platoon with the LH-hitting Murphy in LF which is why we're looking at a RH'ed bat like Upton. Martin will get his PT. We just need another OF'er is all.
A Martín/Gentry platoon commanding CF in 2013 at their salaries is more valuable than any of the FA CF's in regards to the position that the Rangers FO is in.
Leonys Martín is a very athletic and talented player. He sure has a sweet swing and a cannon for an arm (scouts have noted that Martín's arm is probably his best tool). The kid just needs a season in the bigs to show what he's got. If he struggles, keep rolling him out there. Leonys needs AB's at the big league level.
Josh will be back. Ship out Martin for an equivalent arm prospect and let's roll.
I'll throw out some crap and see if it sticks.
Maybe there's a lack of urgency to trade for Upton (from the Rangers) because they've known all along they're going to move Kinsler to LF and let Martin/ Gentry platoon. Maybe they're focusing on pitching/ catching/ 1B.
The only way King Martin doesn't become a ML regular is if Wash Borbons him. I mean seriously he was putting up ridiculous numbers in AAA. He definitely has a chance to develop into a guy who makes a few all star games. Going to be exciting watching him for at least 6 more years.
Seems like every time LM was called up it wasn't so much to play as to work on his base-running with Gary Pettis.
You wonder how long it takes to learn how to run the bases, particularly given that AAA hitting line he had. What's the worst that could happen?
I have the feeling he still doesn't have Wash's full confidence.
King Leonys will have a surprisingly good season, IMO 3.5 fWAR+...
but with my confidence in Wash basically equivalent to Michael Young's production, I'm wary to make any predictions.
Opportunities with the Others and the mindsets of how much time they get has got to be different from last year.
I do think it's fair to say that if we don't see significant contributions from Martin, Olt & Profar (given they are on the roster) it will be a direct reflection on Ron Washington's coaching style and can't bode well for his future here. It's no secret he handles young players much differently than his veterans and from the outside looking in, I'm not to keen on his development philosophy.
For organizations like the Rays, Royals & Rangers, everyone has to be on the same page.
I'm with the Henchman here.
All I've been reading about for the last several years is how deep and talented the Rangers farm system is. What has it gotten us?
We used prospects to pick upCliff Lee, Koji and Mike Adams.....who have been productive players to one extent or another for the Rangers.
But what youth has contributed in a Rangers uniform? The most notable names are Mitch Moreland, Craig Gentry, Julio Borbon, Neftali Feliz and Robbie Ross. With the exception of Ross all of those guys were playing as early as 2010. Meaning the Rangers haven't had any new young players playing significant roles in the last the last two seasons beyond Robbie Ross.
For an organization that is supposedly rich in young talent that's hard to reconcile. The team doesn't have money to throw around even though they have a pretty damn high payroll. They NEED to have guys like Olt, Profar, Martin and Gentry contributing in order to get some balance in the payroll.
If Wash doesn't trust them, then he needs to go or...perhaps it shows the organization doesn't trust them. If that's the case, they (especially Olt - 25, and Martin - 24) should have been traded when their perceived value was high.
I'm tired of potential sitting on the bench with no opportunity to prove their ability. Let's find out if Gentry can be an everyday player. Let's find out if Olt can carve out a role. Let's find out if Martin can play in the bigs. Profar is so young I could understand more seasoning.
What's the point of young talent if you're just letting it rot on the bench / in the minors?
Talent comes in waves.
Then Next Wave has: Perez, Profar, Olt, Martin, Grimm, Neil Ram, Scheppers, Garcia, Few Bullpen Guys (its top heavy and not much depth)
The wave that excites me is the one after that which I like to call "The Last Chance at Dynasty" (I call it that because you build dynasties with prospects and in this new CBA it is almost impossible to build up the farm the Rangers have now.) This Wave includes: Buckle, Odor, Sardinas, The Fab Five, Hopefully one of Cone/Akins/Skole, maybe Kevin Matthews, Drew Robison, Alfaro, Beras, Guzman, Mazara, David Perez, Herrera/Alberto, and frankly many more. Obviously this list narrows as time progresses and we learn if prospects will reach their potential or even stay in this organization but what makes this "Last Chance at Dynasty" wave so special is because of the potential. This is the most potential ever assembled in a Ranger farm system. This truly could be baseballs last dynasty especially with this CBA. Hey 5 years, from now there is a chance none of these guys will have panned out, but as long as they are there this organization has a very very bright future.
Andrus, Harrison, and Holland come to mind. Not as recent as two years, but they were given a chance to develop @ the big league level.
Maybe Leonys and some of these others are nothing more than AAAA players. Impressive stats in the minors don't always lead to a playable major leaguer.
Should I agree what what you all are posting?
For one thing, doesn't Martin only have 3 more years, not 6? He had a 5 year contract.
Next, you seem to be making an argument but not going far enough with it. If Martin is so good, and I agree he might be, why not make him a full time starter, not a mere platooner?
Same for Gentry. Sure, Gentry doent hit RHP as well as he hits LHP, but Gentry's defense, in the all important center field, is as good against RHP as it is against LHP. His defense alone is worth 3.5 WAR per 650 PA.
Cruz needs to play DH, once Young is gone, I hope, or Cruz and Young both need to go. Thus, if there are no more trades or free agent signings in the outfield, it could be Murphy, Gentry and Martin. Martin could sit on his butt and be better than last year's performance by Cruz.
He has 6. His contract runs out after 3 but he is still under team control for 6 years. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
"Maybe they're focusing on pitching/ catching/ 1B."
Whether or not they move Ian to the OF, these should probably be higher priorities. I don't like Perez in the last rotation spot right now, and our backup catcher, assuming Soto isn't non-tendered without re-signing him, is Luis Martinez. I'd prefer an upgrade at 1B too, but that's a full step down the list from a pitcher and catcher.
I still want Napoli back, even if we have to overpay a little bit for him. There just aren't many decent catchers available, and I'm not particularly high on Pierzynski, whom I've heard linked to the Rangers.
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