What is your opinion of the A.J. Pierzynski signing?
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I know that mustache has a lot of upside and is a lefty under control for years to come. But we need catching and at least a left handed bat and this trade would give us two young players with some pop in their bats. What would you think of trading Holland to Toronto for Arencibia and CF Rasmus they're both 26. Rasmus hits left handed and could realistically hit 30 HRS with Texas. Even though I don't like the OBP of either, their power would make up for the difference.
We would then go hard after Haren (2yrs/$25M+incentives) or Sanchez (3yrs/$42M+) to fill our #4 spot in the rotation. That would leave us around $10M to sign to relievers like Uehara and Broxton.
It would put the payroll around $133M which the Rangers can easily afford. This would blue work if either starter agrees to get paid $10M and each reliever $5M in their first year of their contract.
This would give us a legit lineup with 3 30 HR potential outfielders.
Andrus Profar Kinsler Beltre Rasmus Cruz Young Arencibia Olt
Premium speed at the top, combined with respectable power from 5 hitters in the lineup not counting Olt.
Darvish Shields Harrison Haren/Sanchez Ogando
Pretty impressive rotation...take those top 4 in the postseason then Ogando and Felix reinforcing the bullpen...wow! Lewis for long relief? Why not...
Kirkman, Buckel., Scheppers, Uehara, Broxton and Nathan.
With Lewis and Feliz reinforcing the pitching in August.
The reason I have Shields included in the rotation is because I had another suggestion on a potential trade that could work with Tampa:
Perez, Moreland, Martin and Grimm should be enough for Shields. They'll be addressing 3 and possibly 4 spots on their roster. 1B, CF, a reliever and possible #5 starter with upside. 4 MLB players totaling less than $4M in 2013 which in turn saved them around $6M with Shields going off their payroll.
This would mean Olt would be the primary 1B with Young being the backup. Going with Gentry at CF and Engel Beltre of the bench. Profar in 2B and Kinsler in LF.
This would put the payroll around $113M with like $20M left to address the bullpen and catcher position.
Sounds like a pretty reasonable plan except for a couple of things: 1) I'm not sure how good of an offense that would be. Profar and Olt are both big question marks still, even though we THINK they'll do well. Also, I don't know about Kinsler in the three spot and whether or not Young will bounce back. Seems like a questionable rotation. 2) Arencibia is supposed to be one of the worst defensive catchers in the league. Is his bat really good enough to compensate that?
On the other hand I think this lineup would be very good defensively (excluding Arencibia) and I think that pitching rotation would be absolutely ridiculous! That rotation, on paper, would make up for a lot of offensive questions.
If you could replace Young with a good DH, or get a hitting first base and use Olt to fill in there, at third, some OF and some DH I would like this plan much more.
I took a bit of issue with your sacrificing OBP for HR power. I posted it in the Cliff Lee thread. More importantly, your scenario with Sanchez is completely unfeasible and I'm skeptical of Haren. I think he'll do better than that, and I'm not sure he's worth it. Shields I like for us, the others not so much.
I understand the questions regarding hitting with Profar and Olt, but if Profar struggles they can send him back to AAA, move Kinsler to 2B put Murphy in LF. As far as Young if he struggles again he should be released as I highly doubt he would accept a utility role off the bench. But I highly doubt they have the guys to make such a move. I would rather have Murphy as the DH 80% of the time but Washington won't have the balls to do that. As far as 1B you just gotta see what you have in Olt and worst case scenario there's Young to the rescue...lol
All things consider the lineup would be average at worst but most likely will pan out. That rotation will make up for the lineup. The bullpen would be above average with those relievers.
I would give the lineup a B-, the rotation A+, the bullpen an A-, and the defense a solid A. Just imagine that infield of Beltre, Andrus, Profar and Olt...dam where's Pudge!
Guts* not "guys"
I can't see the Jays sending both Arencibia AND Rasmus for Dutch. They still think that Rasmus will turn it around Alex Gordon-style - you know, huge early promise that took time to pan out.
But I have to admit, I'm still at a loss as to why everybody is in such a hurry to dump Holland. And don't start listing me the reasons; I've seen them all already. No, he's not a guarantee, but there are so few guarantees in pitching. When he's good, he's great. And give me the guy who has the potential to be great once in a while over the Scott Feldman - Tommy Hunter types that so many of you seem to prefer.
Yeah I read that report on Sanchez after I write this. But I guess I wasn't far off on his salary demand per year wise. I think 6 years is too long the longest I would be comfortable would be 4 years. But then that would be a long shot to acquire him.Haren might be looking for a one year type of deal to redeem himself of the rare down year he had. Maybe a $12M plus incentives will do since he already collected the $2M buyout from LAA.
I'm in no hurry to "dump" Holland and no I don't prefer Feldman or Hunter over Holland.Plus I wouldn't call Holland for Rasmus and Arencibia a "dump" and is not automatic that the Jays would just hang up after hearing that offer since they have surplus of OF's.
Holland and his shenanigans need a wake up call. Done with the bs. We need your left handed attributes, not your f'n impersonations. Dutch I like, Douche I don't.
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