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Divide the team into battery and fielders. Our returning fielders, Moreland, Young, Kinsler, Profar, Andrus, Beltre, Olt, Murphy, Martin, Gentry, and Cruz, as a group, are good enough. There is positional flexibility, which will allow Wash to give scheduled rest. (And the front office can tell him who to play. Remember Andrus a few years ago.) The great bulk of our resources in money or prospects needs to be spent on the segments of the team that are not good enough - pitching and catching.

November 21, 2012 at 10:40 AM | Unregistered Commenterarnrob

I honestly believe that the best pickup the Rangers will have made this offseason is Dave Magadan. I think as currently constructed our team is going to be fine. And JD hasn't even gotten started yet. You're right that pitching and catching should be a priority. I wouldn't mind seeing Kinsler +++ going to Toronto for D'Arnaud and Bonifacio. That's just me though.

November 21, 2012 at 11:19 AM | Unregistered CommenterMarktown

Kinsler, Olt, Perez, Grimm, Odor, Sardinas and probably another arm is what it would take. That's a lot.

Td'A is going to be a 4.0-6.0 WAR catcher over the next 6 years, making the league minimum for the first 3. We'd really be sacrificing a good portion of our future. Do I think it's worth it? Probably not. But I'd love to hear the discussion between the two front offices.

November 21, 2012 at 11:34 AM | Unregistered Commentereric reining

I just heard that d'Arnaud had a season ending knee in injury couple of days ago not sure how that might affect your trade proposal?

November 21, 2012 at 1:57 PM | Unregistered Commentergtownfan

gtownfan, I saw the about d'Arnaud too - it was a poorly worded article, and it did sound like the injury just happened. That is incorrect. In actuality, he had a season-ending knee injury during the season and will be fine by spring training.

And eric, before you say that d'Arnaud is "going to be a 4.0 to 6.0 WAR catcher over the next six years," please remember the lesson of Matt Wieters. Matt Wieters was God, he was going to conquer baseball with five loaves of bread and two fish, he was going to find the cure for cancer. d'Arnaud is a great prospect, but he isn't a prospect in the class that Wieters prospect class was. And Matt Wieters has hit 4 WAR once in his four years as a major leaguer.

November 21, 2012 at 2:53 PM | Unregistered Commentergeo

Well said geo.

November 21, 2012 at 5:59 PM | Unregistered CommenterMarktown

geo, not sure which version of WAR you're using, but according to Fangraphs he's produced 5.0 and 4.1 WAR the last two years, respectively. I'm pretty sure he's clearly established himself as one of the three to five best catchers in all of baseball, so for you to sneeze at where he's at at age-26 is a little bollocks, in my opinion.

Scouting reports comp Td'A to Buster Posey, and even though I'm not a big fan of comparisons (certainly not to Posey), I'm pretty comfortable in projections of scouts. And, really, how many truly elite catchers are there in baseball? I'm not saying d'Arnand is going to cure cancer and bring two fish and five loaves of bread anywhere, but when the talent spread you're competing against at your position is thin, there's a lot of room to skyrocket in the WAR department.

November 21, 2012 at 6:40 PM | Unregistered Commentereric reining

Geo is correct about the injury. D'Arnaud tore his PCL which ended his season last year, he didn't need surgery and Toronto is just trying to not rush him back to early.

As far as trading for him, its going to cost the moon. I bet you see Arencibia in a Rangers uniform b/c he will be easier to obtain.

Toronto has to trade one. They don't want to be the Rangers a la 3 years ago who were too stubborn to trade any of 3 good looking catching prospects and end up with nothing. That decision still amazes me to this day.

November 21, 2012 at 7:32 PM | Unregistered CommenterSam Hill