Concerning title of this post, I drew this from the article @ the team website. Not IT savy so sirry I can't put link here. However, it is a great article on JD and how he always plays his hand clodely to his chest. I sense he will make a Jedi Master move and do something clever. On this subject, I saw a good trade suggestion tweeted from a Blue Jays fan. He proposed Arencibia and Rasmus for Kinsler. I thought that was a good idea. I dunno! I suspect JD will have us all bewildered until he pulls a rabbit out of his hat! Hurry up winter meetings! When do they start?

I believe the winter meetings are from Dec 3-6. Should see a lot of action then.

I don't think that trade will happen, with Ian's massive contract and all.

Why do people keep making trade proposals for Arencibia? He's not that good. I wouldn't trade Kinsler for him regardless of his contract.

I would very seriously consider trading Kinsler for Rasmus and Arincibia but I agree with Andy that Toronto probably wouldn't make that trade.

I am not sure. The Jays have a glut of catchers now and why would you take Buck if you are not going to trade at least one. On the subject of Kinsler for Arencibia and Rasmus, I think it would take a pitcher along with Kins to get that done. Toronto is looking for pitching right now. If you included Perez, maybe. Maybe not.

You guys amaze me. Everyone wants to get rid of Ian after one down year immediately after a 30/30 year. Some of you guys need to get your heads checked.

Aprencibia is not great...but he is certainly not bad. He is cheap which is a big plus! The team has holes to fill so anywhere they can cut corners will help. He also has some potential as he is only 26 and could easily put up 30 HR and RBiA

Romeo212000;

I understand that Kins had a down year. However, it's not his offense (which slumped badly last year) that's the central issue. It's his DEFENSE. Removing Kins from the middle of the Rangers infield will save runs, just as adding a run producing bat increases them.

He's also into his 30s (31, I believe). Though his bat may rebound, his defense, unless he sees Barry Bonds doctor, will not. The fact that he is not far removed from a 30/30 season makes him a little easier to move. In return you'd have to take someone else's problem contract.

Do you really want to see Kins in the leadoff spot again? That's what Wash wants to do. If I'm JD, I'm short-circuiting those plans. Sorry Wash.

Peace

In this scenario, they only way a trade like this one is palatible on the Rangers side, strictly my opinion, is that the Blue Jays take on 100% financial committment on Kinsler, then use the money saved to sign Greinke. But my first thought was the only way the Jays do something like this is if the Rangers pay some on the salary, and of course my second thought was this won't happen.

He also has some potential as he is only 26 and could easily put up 30 HR and RBiA[.]

This is an extremely optimistic outlook on the situation. Arencibia does have legitimate 20 home run potential, but that's given that he's our primary (110-120 starts) catcher in 2013. Personally? I'm not very comfortable with that. He's nothing special on defense. Yes, he has four years of control, but realistically I'm not expecting him to consistently duplicate some of the offensive potential he showed last year. I only see him as a 1.0-1.5 win catcher moving forward, all things considered.

I'm more interested in John Buck. He's only got one year left on his contract, and I think he would make a pretty effective backup to whomever our #1 is. Although he's older and more expensive, his peripherals impress me more than Arencibia's. Namely, the guy takes walks. I think we could plug almost anyone in to the backup catcher position and get a .220-.240 batting average with 10-12 home runs, but unlike Arencibia, Buck actually has a knack for getting on base.

That said, I'd like Toronto to eat about $3M of the $6M owed to him.

The Rangers have liked John Buck for years. I sort of agree with Eric in that Buck would be a very good backup catcher...and I'd like Tor to eat some of his contract. The problem is that the Rangers need a frontline catcher AND a backup (assuming Soto gets non tenured). J.P. at least gives you a chance at getting a frontline catcher. Buck is pretty much as good as he will get and is better suited to being a back up. The real question would whether or not the Rangers feel J.P. would be a better gamble now as a frontline starter, or should they find a stop gap and try to fill that hole next year or beyond.

Buck started to decline this last year with pretty much everything going down. JP has a 162 game average of 29 HR in the Rogers Centre...that would only go up in RBiA. Jp has improved every year and he should only be getting better while also saving several million dollars.

If you go and spend several million on a backup, you still need to spend several more million plus players most likely in a trade to get a starting catcher.