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Forum > Choo for Moreland and Scheppers (says Cameron)

Have you guys read about this? Why would the Rangers add another corner OF and give up Moreland and Scheppers to do it? I just don't even begin to know how to explain how dumb this trade would be for the Rangers. Dave Cameron says this is something that "should" happen.

October 31, 2012 at 11:17 PM | Unregistered CommenterRevsader

That's too far too high of a price to pay for Choo, and he isn't much better than any of the outfielders we already have. Scheppers has great stuff and has the potential to be a key part of our bullpen in the future. Mitch Moreland has more power than Choo and can probably put up better numbers. Agree with you, this trade doesn't make any sense.

October 31, 2012 at 11:34 PM | Unregistered CommenterSilverSlugger21

Choo is darnn good, high obp guy w a rifle of an arm. I believe one year left on contract which would be biggest issue for me.

October 31, 2012 at 11:51 PM | Unregistered CommenterBrian

Is there a link to this somewhere? If he really said that, he is an idiot. That trade makes no sense for the Rangers.

November 1, 2012 at 12:08 AM | Unregistered CommenterTR13

I do not have an ESPN insider account, but Durrett linked it in a blog piece.

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/texas-rangers/post/_/id/4893451/should-rangers-trade-for-shin-soo-choo

November 1, 2012 at 12:13 AM | Unregistered CommenterRevsader

Just skimmed the links. Cameron must be drunk. He also has Price and a SS to AZ for Upton and Bauer. BBTiA has better speculation than this.

November 1, 2012 at 12:29 AM | Unregistered Commenterprimi timpano

What's the matter wit choo?

I wouldn't give up Moreland and Scheppers, but I wouldn't be too upset if the Rangers acquired him with some prospect depth pieces.

Some stats for comparison's sake:

2012 fWAR / career fWAR / career games / '12 wRC+ v. left/ PAs / career wRC+ v. left/PAs / '12 wRC+ v. right/PAs / career wRC+ v. right/PAs

Choo: 2.6 / 19.3 / 699 / 78 in 242 PA / 95 in 907 PA / 160 in 444 / 147 in 2058

Cruz: 1.3 / 12.6 / 695 / 149 in 159 / 125 in 738 / 90 in 483 / 107 in 1988

Murphy: 4.0 / 10.9 / 707 / 129 in 84 / 75 in 595 / 127 in 437 / 119 in 1923

Moreland: .6 / 1.6 / 295 / 85 in 51 / 64 in 196 / 107 in 306 / 108 in 846

Assuming we lose Hamilton, acquiring Choo and putting him in the lineup against rightys with Murphy would still provide some decent left-handed wRC+ against rightys, 147 career and 160 in 2012 seem like really good numbers, especially compared to what the Rangers might be otherwise throwing out there. Again, I wouldn't give up Moreland and Scheppers, but the point of the proposal for Cameron was the Rangers having an almost all righty-hitting lineup (but he thinks we should give away one of our 2 left-handed bats in the process?), which to me is a real concern.

November 1, 2012 at 10:31 AM | Unregistered Commenterjohnnyranger

Moreland could be expendable if we make a play at Reynolds.

November 1, 2012 at 10:54 AM | Unregistered CommenterFajita

Reynolds? I'd rather make a run at LaRoche, who is free as of today. Yes, this year could be an aberration, but I'd bank on him to repeat this year more than I'd expect Reynolds to look like he did in Arizona.

November 1, 2012 at 11:22 AM | Unregistered CommenterAndy

Reynolds will frustrate people more than Hamilton. He's homeruns and strikeouts all the way, don't think he'd be worth getting

November 1, 2012 at 11:30 AM | Unregistered Commenterguest

Reynolds is frustrating, but he could put up some huge power numbers in Arlington helping "reaplce" Hamiltons bat. He would also be cheaper than Laroche. I would much rather have Laroche too, but he will be more expensive. Reynolds has droped his K rate every year since 2009.

November 1, 2012 at 11:37 AM | Unregistered CommenterFajita

I wouldn't hate Reynolds at DH or 1b. You'll get an OPS of 800 ish and he has a ton of power. Kind of like a poor man's adam dunn. But as for the original point, I'd pull the trigger on that deal ASAP and extend Choo. He's a great hitter and defender. He's got decent speed as well.

November 1, 2012 at 12:41 PM | Unregistered CommenterYP

Mitch Moreland posted a higher OPS than Reynolds did this season, and for $7 million less. First base should be the least of our concerns right now.

November 1, 2012 at 5:40 PM | Unregistered CommenterSilverSlugger21

Choo over Reynolds because we need a power LH-bat if we lose Hammy, and Moreland shouldn't be involved in the trade. If he is, we're down to only 2 LH-bats in the lineup with power in Choo and Murphy. Don't like that unbalanced lineup. Remember, we have to face the likes of RH'ers Weaver, Felix, Verlander, Jarrod Parker a few times every year, not to mention Verlander, Scherzer, etc.

November 1, 2012 at 5:56 PM | Unregistered CommenterKristen W.

Since the lefty issue would be a problem how about instead of Reynolds you go after Laroche on a 2 year deal, he will be more expensive but he would still be a nice addition to the club. That along with a trade for Choo and something being done with the rotation and we look good.

November 1, 2012 at 9:11 PM | Unregistered CommenterFajita

"That along with a trade for Choo and something being done with the rotation and we look good."

Hardly. With Ogando being moved into the rotation there's still a lot of work left to be done with the bullpen, especially with Mike Adams, Koji Uehara, and Mark Lowe becoming free agents. And what about the catching position? Are we going to re-sign Napoli and/or look for other options? Like I said before, first base should not be a huge priority. We have not yet seen the best of young Mitch Moreland, a solid and very cost-effective option. The majority of this club's money should be spent on pitching, not additional bats, especially not for the team that finished first in the major leagues in runs scored.

November 1, 2012 at 10:26 PM | Unregistered CommenterSilverSlugger21

There are lots of interesting FA relievers out there like Broxton, Madson, Farnsworth, Soria, etc. but LA has driven their asking prices up with their re-signing of League to that contract. You'd figure it'll be a buyer's market given the large number of relievers available, but the League signing plus a lot of the better FA's like Broxton and Madson probably holding out for closing jobs instead of settling for setup roles might make things a little harder for interested teams.

November 2, 2012 at 8:52 AM | Unregistered CommenterKristen W.