Wash will not be fired this off season. I think that much is obvious. But, since there are a ton of people that want Wash out...it brings to mind the logical question of who would replace him. And just for fun...if you think it's someone already in the Ranger organization, then who would replace his position.

I'll go first...

Mike Maddux replaces Wash
Greg Maddux replaces his brother and becomes the pitching coach.

I nominate myself.

I can take all of your criticisms and name calling. I can handle it. I will lead you to the promised land. And if not me, then okay, you can promote Maddux.

How bout Eric or any of the other nerd turds on here who know'everything'.

Mike Maddux but Wash isn't getting fired

I like the idea of Mike Maddux replacing Wash. It seems like he would be a lot more flexible as a manger. But I think there have been a few occasions where he has made some head-scratching moves with the bullpen this season. I also wonder if the clubhouse would be any different without Wash.

I love the idea of Maddux replacing Wash, and the Maddux replacing Maddux. I've mentioned it a few times, and if i were to make a move that would be what i was in favor for!

Whoever it is desperately needs to be a proven MANAGER... not just a really good guy who everybody likes.

My nomination goes to Clint Hurdle. Not only is he a great manager (Colorado and now Pittsburgh), but he also is a hitting guru. Keep Maddux^2 as the pitching coaches and Hawk helping, but it needs to be someone with experience.

Think LaRussa would have any interest in coming out of retirement? It's a lead-pipe-cinch he'd never be outmanaged... lol

Easy job. Apparently just plug in the numbers and do what sabermetrics tell you. Never go with your gut or your eyes. But be careful, because not everyone uses the same numbers. Most tend to go with the ones that work best in retrospect.

@Ed Looney,

I sort of agree that it would be better to have proven guy come in...but there's just that many proven guys available. Hurdle is doing a good job with the Pirates and I'm not sure he would leave there to come back here.

My second choice would be Tito Francona...but he's not available either.

Monty Brewster

>>"Apparently just plug in the numbers and do what sabermetrics tell you."

if wash had taken this approach the rangers would literally be in the playoffs right now

We could trade 'em Wash! And, offer Justin Grimm as a kicker... !

Or, Mike Olt...

Or, somebody from Frisco... Leury Garcia?

Anyone else read Wash's admission that "maybe" he rode his regulars too hard and that he "learns" something every year? Dood - EVERYONE was telling you to give Olt, Gentry, Profar, etc more time and rest some guys ... WTF!?

Bobby V, easy.

Steve Buechele, anyone?

MY changes roles and becomes a player-manager alongside Wash, taking a large pay cut but also providing flexibility by coming in to pinch hit late in innings or filling in when players need rest! I'd dig it.

Or Maddux, whatever.

I want someone from outside the organization, not Maddux. I'm scared that someone from within the organization would suffer from the same lack of objectivity that Wash had.

That's a fair point Keystone. Throw out some names...it's hard to think of experienced, available coaches, form outside the organization.

Yes, this "fire Wash" bonfire really needs to be thought out further than the emotional knee jerk I keep seeing here. Who do you replace him with? People have mentioned Maddux. Really? Based on what in game management experience makes you think that Mike Maddux is cut out for a managerial position? To my knowledge he has never managed a major league team. Just because he is the greatest pitching coach in franchise history doesn't translate to greatest manager necessarily. LaRussa? Yes one of the greatest managers ever but the guy retired for a reason. What incentive does he have to come back? Also, it's not like people haven't questioned LaRussa's moves in the past. As I recall we were a relatively routine fly ball or one good pitch away from a title under Ron Washington's watch and LaRussa being the goat for his bullpen blunder in Arlington. LaRussa was under major fire going into Game 6.

Is Wash perfect? Heck no. In 2012, I see the following
1) Played his starters too much down the stretch
2) Not the best in game strategist (you could say this about a lot of managers though)
3) His little trust in young players
4) Undying loyalty to MY

I have yet to see a solid suggestion for a replacement so don't go saying we should replace him with "an established manager", that's a give up.

Who gives a crap about experience? I just want someone that wont make the same mistakes that Wash did. I don't care if its his first time managing in the MLB or not.

Who gives a crap about experience? Seriously, that is your argument? Sorry guys, the perfect manager doesn't exist. A manager with zero experience is likely to make mistakes that a more experienced manager (Wash) wouldn't make. He might not make the same mistakes as Wash but he will make different ones that are just as if not more irritating that what we are seeing right now.

You could bring in an experienced guy (again, names would be good) but you are still going to face a guy that makes questionable moves. How did Bobby V work out in Boston? Yeah, he is a hard nosed jack ass that lost his team the first month of the season, it worked really well.

Yes the Rangers blew it but firing Wash ain't gonna fix it. it wasn't Wash's doing alone.

I chalk it up to a several factors:

1) Subpar years by key contributors in previous years - Kins, Young, Napoli, Cruz
2) Injuries to the pitiching staff that just didn't happen in 2011 (Holland, Colby, Ogando, Feliz), Think about it, if Colby doesn't get hurt we are sitting in the Division Series right now
3) The craziness that is Josh Hamilton
4) Fatigue and bad timing to get into a funk (you can blame Wash for not resting his guys here)
5) The Rangers stopped being the Rangers - they stopped being aggresive on the basepadsor made boneheaded baserunning mistakes. Plate discipline went down the tubes (Swing at everything, who cares about OBP). Lack of timely hitting with RISP. To me you pin this on both the coaches and players.

FInally, I think they really expected Holland to finally mature and be a consistent TORP. IT didn't happen and I'm not sure what to think. He is still young but I'm really ready for him to "click" and string together a TORP type year. Not sure if it will happen