Forum > If we do nothing this off-season
As you said, if we do nothing...
I think we'll be around what you projected...mid 80's in wins...and probably playing for a wild card. The only change to the lineup/rotation that I have would be moving Ogando into the rotation and having Grimm in the pen or in AAA.
JV
If we did nothing we would still have Gentry Profar and Olt and I don't think MY DH will be an option next yr well not much anyway. And Maybe Cruz takes a little more time on the bench next to MY and does the DH thing more often.
But I think mid 80's in wins is about right
Joe C.
I think there is almost no way we get to 90 wins if we do nothing. You'd have to get huge rebound years out of Kinsler, Young, and Cruz, and these guys aren't getting any younger. You'd also need for Harrison not to regress, Yu to be more consistent, Holland to get better, and Perez and Ogando to be pretty good.
I'd say the range of wins would be 75-85, with about 80 to be expected.
The Rangers are losing over 10 WAR this season through free agency and it's possible that Lewis and Feliz make no contribution next year.
RFan
Keep in mind too that Beltre and Murphy combined for over 11 WAR this season. Will that happen again?
And consider how thin the team will be. What happens if Harrison, Yu, or Beltre goes down with an injury.
This season we lost 2 of our starting 5 pitchers. In 2011, Beltre, Hamilton, Cruz, and Napoli all missed significant time.
RFan
My projections were assuming that Kinsler and Cruz have more normal seasons next year, along with more contribution from Olt/Profar/Gentry and also MY being how he was in spetember/August of this year, not great but not bad.
@JV yes i would do the same with the rotation, I knew i was forgetting someone!
Fajita
I doubt mid 80s in wins is good enough for wild card.. With Houston joining the division, and all others on the rise the AL West will likely be tough again next year. This year, 90 wins wasn't good enough.
We have a lot of needs. It may be best to start building our next core.
CJ
No way We don't make moves this off Season. Trade deadline deals were way below expectations, even if completly understandable. 2012 Rangers imploded and, by now, we should all know Pitching wins Championships. With Houston in and LA comming into next year brimming with confidence (not to mention upstart a's) no way 90 wins gets us to WC playoffs next year. Lewis will be back, Harrison should too. I see us working a wrangle for Price/Greinke/...smartest #1 possible.
I believe Rangers Brain Trust will Pay for Pitching over Hitting.
The intresting moves will be in the order: Profar/Olt should factor somewhere. What will Napoli require? Face should be addressed (DH Only/Max.) The Outfield needs speed, First Base needs... consistency and our manager needs to grow some brain cells.
LA is the new power but I don't see Texas dropping off too far. I'd be content with 2013 as reload year as long as we see significant growth in young talent
o0ortRanger


Since it's technically the offseason let's get this started. If the Rangers we to do nothing this offseason, outside of Arb what are your realistic projections for this team, along with lineups.
I've seen some people say 75-80 wins...that's a less than .500 team and I believe the Rangers are much better than that! Look back at 2010 I believe that next years team could still be better than the 2010 team, looking back on it, they were good, but they weren't really World Series good. I still believe even without making moves we would be a contender..anything can happen in baseball. So without doing anything this offseason i think out W-L would be around 84-90 wins call me crazy but i think it could happen.
Lineup:
2b Ian Kinsler
SS Elvis Andrus
3B Adrian Beltre
RF Nelson Cruz
DH Micheal Young
LF David Murphy
1B Mitch Moreland
C Geovany Soto
CF Leonys Martin
Rotation:
P Yu Darvish
P Matt Harrison
P Derek Holland
P Martin Perez
P Justin Grimm?
Writing this up made me realize that some moves definitely need to be made, but on the brightside maybe attendance will be down, and I will be able to go to more games!