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his style of managing was fine when they were the underdogs and weren't used to winning, but he's become patronizing and arrogant, caring about nothing but loyalty to veterans. this all started when he kept putting arthur rhodes into high leverage situations.
he's an awful strategist and resents young players. what are his strengths and why does anyone think things will be different next year if he's the manager?
For Starters I think this is going to be a younger team next yr. I don't know who will be on this team next yr none of us do, but I would bet big money that JD and the boys are figuring out how to rid themselves of the "loyalty to Veterans" issue that Wash has. Even if it's nothing more than a come to Jesus meeting with Wash, the issues of screw that rookie I'm playing who I want won't happen next year.
WIngs I don't think you will find anyone on here that thinks Wash was right to do the things he did with the line up, but he deserves the benifit of the doubt and a little loyality from us after 2 straight trips to the WS.
Yeah-lets fire him-screw the 2 World Series
if you care so much about the world series, you should know he's a huge liability in the playoffs. i couldn't even count the number of boneheaded decisions he made last year. the most egregious was leaving an injured nelson cruz in the game.
2 World Series Cliff Lee, Colby Lewis, Ian Kinsler, Josh Hamilton, Adrian Beltre, Nelson Cruz, Mike Napoli, 1st base ump on check swing> Ron Wash, Vlad in right field, Colby batting with bases loaded, Mark Lowe pitching, Holland pitching with nobody warming up behind him.
YAWWWWNNNN-and to think we could have had Francona. Beer and fried chicken DURING the games for everyone.
GOD: If that's really who you are. One would think world peace, word hunger, perhaps climate change might concern you more than who manages the Rangers. AMEN
Ditto what Joe C said.
Washington is a weak on field manager. Anyone who doubts that doesn't know what they are looking at. Just look at the coin flip game. Wash lost the DH because he wanted Napoli to catch and he put him at DH when he filled out the lineup card instead of Face at DH. Personally I would have rather seen anyone other then Face in the lineup, but that's what Wash did. I'll also say he mismanaged the bullpen by using Holland on two days of rest when Koji was fresh and has gone more then 1 ip before for us.
I don't think there is a perfect manager out there, but I'm beginning to think that the team has out grown Wash.
WASH's strength was reported to be that the guys love him and will play for him. Nuf said. They quit on WASH. Maybe someday we will find out what happened but something happened to this team in June. They were 43-40 the last 83 games. They were coasting.
As the Rangers would say; "It's time." The Rangers admin needs to convince ownership that a change is needed at the helm. This will not happen this winter, there are too many on field issues to address.
@Jim B.Pretty sure Josh Hamilton's contract is the number one thing on his mind right now.
Joe C. is absolutely correct.
How many 90 win seasons have the Rangers had before Wash? The answer is 3. One in 96, one in 99 and one in 77...that's 3 in 49 years (including the Senators). How many 90 win seasons have the Rangers had with Wash...3 (in a row). What is the Ranger record for most consecutive winning seasons...4...the last four years under Wash.
Nobody can argue that Wash is a great in game manager...and I'm not giving him a pass entirely, but like Joe C said...he deserves the benefit of the doubt. Now if what happened this year continues and becomes a trend...then he'll be gone...and deservedly so.
^ correction meant wash is NOT a great in game manager...my bad.
Wash was brought here when this team sucked and was in transition. There was not a whole lot of talent on this team when he came aboard. So instead of getting a big name manager, they got some nobody who was cheap and no team at all even looked his way for a manager position. He was handed tons of talent through the moves of JD and others. Cliff Lee, Beltre, Cruz, Hamilton, Napoli, Andrus, Harrison, Feliz, Koji, Adams, Murphy, Vlad were all brought here and handed to Wash. That is why we got good. Very little because of him.
If the only thing his supporters can point to is the intangibles of getting his team to run through walls for him, well that is no longer here. This team basically quit on him. His stubborness to play Young the whole year was pathetic.
And like everyone knows, he can't manage a lineup or make good in game moves. It has hindered this team so bad over our run. He didn't lead us to a WS. The players led him. So many moves he made that were maddening. Playing Vlad in the outfield. Playing MY in the field last year. Mark Lowe. Esteban German pinch hitting. And so on and so on. And this year, pinch hitting Napoli but having Soto at catcher, knowing he won't go the distance. Just idiotic.
There has been a little bit of myth-making about Wash, I think. When he first got here, he resurrected Benoit by showing faith in him. He put Milton Bradley in a position to have his career year. He brought Elvis up and worked into the top of the lineup.
He hasn't always been a veterans guy but he has become progressively stubborn over the past couple of years. And the questioning about his in-game management has made him defensive and irritable. What Ron Washington needs is his own Ron Washington: someone to tell him that they believe in him but also show him where he needs to improve.
Well said JBeckTex.
Wash is not going anywhere. Nor should he be. Perfect? Absolutely not.Same old story if he is back? I can live with 90+ wins and being in the post season. Not that bad of a story.
The Cardinals won the WS last year. LaRussa retired and another manager took over.
The Cardinals made the playoffs again this season, despite no Pujols and a depleted pitching staff.
Can we please stop pretending that this team would fall apart without Wash. His primary responsibility was to play the best players available and put them in the best positions to succeed. He did a very poor job on both accounts.
UTB you bring up a fair point. Other managers can and would have success with the same roster that Washington had available to him, but Wash is still the only guy that has shepherded the Rangers to this type of success. I appreciate that about him, but I am also quite perturbed at some of his ways. If JD and Ryan can sit down with him and get him to manage the roster to maximize the results, then he will do well until his contract is fulfilled.
In fairness utb...
The Cards didn't just pick up some bum off the streets to replace LaRussa. He was in affect had picked by LaRussa to be his replacement (at least he gave his recommendation) and was already familiar with the city, culture, and even most of the players.
You still bring up a solid point, I'm just saying that the Cards situation has some special circumstances that helped easy the transition...and it's only year 1. Let's see how that plays out over the next 4-5 years.
In the final team interview, Wash was asked what mistakes he made, if any. He said that he should not have played his regulars as much as he did.
...and the Red Sox got rid of Francona. This season was a disaster. If you watch teams before and after letting managers go, there often doesn't seem to be a huge variance in performance. Maybe the guys making millions on the field matter. According to some on here, any clown off the streets could plug the numbers into a computer and win it all.
Where would the A's be if Wash was their manager?
Cripes... he wouldn't have a starting PITCHER!
Why do alot of people pull the " he took us to two world series" card? He took us to two world series and we STILL have no rings. He was obviously out managed during both trips.
Just curious, Frustrated, but are you then saying that any manager whose team has lost the World Series was outmanaged?
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