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Forum > Hey Josh Hamilton....

Did you even give any effort tonight at all? Looks like you could care less out there. And looked almost worse at the plate. Laughing after your silly errors. I hope we are not getting the May/June/July version of you. This coming right after your mysterious, suspicious "sinus" issue.

September 26, 2012 at 11:09 PM | Unregistered CommenterTornACL

Watching that listless performance made my eyes hurt.

September 26, 2012 at 11:41 PM | Unregistered CommenterBusher Mike

Did you have any positive remarks for Josh after the last two games in which he played great?Why is he the only player who's not allowed to have a bad game?Josh has said he tries to keep from getting upset because it makes things worse. He tries to stay positive. Lighten up on him.

September 26, 2012 at 11:46 PM | Unregistered CommenterN Ishmael

I hope he keeps smiling and laughing just to piss you off. Not everyone deals with stuff like you do. Stop projecting your emotions onto him and let the dude play ball. If he sucks, then bitch at him for sucking, but the garbage where people attack him for not caring has to stop.

September 27, 2012 at 12:16 AM | Unregistered CommenterRevsader

Consider this me bitching at him for sucking:

0-4 and shit in the outfield. Get your shit together, Hamilton. And stop frickin' smiling after every fuckup.

In other words, act like you care, please and thank you.

September 27, 2012 at 12:20 AM | Unregistered CommenterSpanks

Someone said, "Did you have any positive remarks for Josh after the last two games in which he played great?"

For doing his job? No. He's paid handsomely to play baseball well.

September 27, 2012 at 12:22 AM | Unregistered CommenterSpanks

So if he does his job well you don't feel you owe him positive comments. But if he has a bad game it's your obligation to bash him. I don't care how much money he makes. He's human and has bad games. Do you not have bad days. ? Do you want someone bashing you for it?

September 27, 2012 at 12:59 AM | Unregistered CommenterN Ishmael

"And stop frickin' smiling after every fuckup."

IT'S. NOT. A. SMILE. ITS. A. GRIMACE.

This from Wikipedia:
A smile is an... expression denoting pleasure, joy, happiness, or amusement, but can also be an involuntary expression of anxiety, in which case it is known as a grimace.

Furthermore tons of players do in pro sports. I've seen Elvis do the exact same thing countless times.

Hamilton will be in the top 10 of the MVP voting. He's flawed...but the criticism of him in some circles is pretty damn ridiculous.

September 27, 2012 at 1:05 AM | Unregistered CommenterProfarMVP

No. It is definitely a smile. A smirk, even. He's been doing it all season during his downturns, so I don't get why anyone is trying to pretend like it doesn't exist.

September 27, 2012 at 1:10 AM | Unregistered CommenterSpanks

It is a smile of anxiety. I can see it. I don"t know why everyone can't see it.He's a troubled person. It"s amazing that he can put up such incredible numbers with all his emotional problems. I will continue to pull for him in his life's struggles.

September 27, 2012 at 1:59 AM | Unregistered CommenterN Ishmael

OK...Spanks spell it out for us...The mic is yours.

In your theory Josh is...smiling after a strike-out...because
A. He just lost some money on his next contract and he thinks that's funny.
B. He hates the Rangers and all Ranger fans and delights at their disappointment
C. He doesn't want to play in the postseason again...it's so boring.
D. He loves making you...you personally...quite angry and miserable.

If you don't like these 4 options and can't propose a workable theory...you might reconsider the grimace...here is some information about facial body language:
http://psychology.about.com/od/nonverbalcommunication/ss/understanding-body-language_4.htm

September 27, 2012 at 2:06 AM | Unregistered CommenterProfarMVP

I'll go with (B). After all the boos from his outfield tonight and earlier in the season from home fans, I think he is just trolling the rest of the game. so yeah, B is very plausible. Great theory, Profart

September 27, 2012 at 2:18 AM | Unregistered CommenterRangerbourne

To me it seems Josh doesn't realize every blunder he has is being noted and that he's losing money and respect. If he can't help the Rangers bring home a trophy this year or help the Rangers make it to the playoffs, then he's done in Texas and he's going to go elsewhere, presumably where the money's at. Because he doesn't owe us anything and we don't owe him anything either.

The guy is as immature as Derek Holland, but Holland knows when to be serious. Earlier in the year, you would hear people say, "Oh you don't want to miss this at bat because every time Hamilton steps to the plate, you know something is going to happen." Now I shake my head every time he comes to the plate, because he's either going to hit a solo home run that doesn't help us whatsoever or he will proceed to strike out when we need the long ball. He is frustrating and I've had about enough of the guy and his poor attitude.

Someone needs to step up and get in his face and it's not going to be Jesus

September 27, 2012 at 2:36 AM | Unregistered CommenterMarlboro Smooths

"A constant smirk upon the face, and a whifling activity of the body, are strong indications of futility."

--Philip Stanhope, Fourth Earl of Chesterfield

September 27, 2012 at 2:48 AM | Unregistered CommenterSpanks

Futile:
in vain: having no practical effect or useful result
frivolous: lacking serious value, substance, or a sense of responsibility
Synonyms: useless, pointless, fruitless, unsuccessful, vain, ineffective, wasted, ineffectual

September 27, 2012 at 2:51 AM | Unregistered CommenterSpanks

Has there ever been another player on the team called out by Wash and Nolan for not careing and being bored.

September 27, 2012 at 6:59 AM | Unregistered CommenterDC

Little Profart I'm going with choice A. Josh is a pro, you've told us all many times, so I'm good with A. There is no such thing as a home discount and as a pro these guys need to take the money, right?

But basically I'm tired of his antics, facial expressions, bat throwing, mystery illness, mystery injuries, relapses, the baby sitter requirement and you get the idea Little Profart?

My message to Josh; Josh this is Texas, you need to man up or leave. And please take Nelson Cruz with you.

September 27, 2012 at 8:10 AM | Unregistered Commentermmurphf

More Halos Haven ish spoiled fan reaction.

WOW. Yeah the whole team sucks they lose 1 out of every 3rd game and no one cares. Hell these guys are just collecting checks.

While we are at it Fire Wash and put Nolan in charge he is the only reason this team is any good.

NOTE SARCASM IN PLAY HERE

September 27, 2012 at 8:11 AM | Unregistered Commentermhilgtx

@ProfarMVP: "IT'S. NOT. A. SMILE. ITS. A. GRIMACE.''
No. It's. Not.
This is something he's done all season. He whales away at a pitch that is practically in the other dugout, looks back at the umpire, says something and smiles.
Last night, he flailed away -- again -- and looked back at the umpire and smiled as if everything was a big joke.
Last night, he flings his bat into short right field, gets another bat and starts having a good time showing the catcher how this new bat is going to stick to his hand. Smiling all the while.
Adrian Beltre, Andrus and Profar smile a lot. But not when they strike out or swing helplessly at a pitch not even Vlad Guerrero could hit.
We get it that he's dealing with a lot of issues. We understand he's a complex person. He's trying to be loose and keep the pressure down to a minimum.
But he needs to quit sending the message to the other team that it doesn't bother him at all if he strikes out.

September 27, 2012 at 8:46 AM | Unregistered CommenterNo. 42

Love all the armchair psychologists and wannabe-athletes on here. You guys are nothing more than uninformed yahoos watching games from your lazy-chair while guzzling your Schlitz malt liquor spouting off on things you have absolutely no idea about.

How many of you have played professional sports? How many of you have been the focus of intense scrutiny of hundreds of thousands (million?) of others? How many of you are among the top 0.0000001% of all humans living on the planet at performing a particular task attempted by many?

I'll just take a wild guess and say NONE of the whining-ass, crybaby, tantrum-throwing, insult-hurling douchebags bitching about Hamilton have done any of these things. Which means, again....you have absolutely NO IDEA what you are talking about.

When you have actual insight into play on the field feel free to join the discussion. Until then, take your mindless drivel to ESPN and the other boards filled with equally useless garbage.

September 27, 2012 at 9:14 AM | Unregistered CommenterMrMan

ERMERGERD HE MAED EH MESTERK???/

Seriously guys, every player has a terrible game. Yeah, he's a distraction and it can be frustrating, but we should all expect this from Josh. Relax, we still control our own destiny.

Keep Calm and FACE On.

September 27, 2012 at 9:17 AM | Unregistered CommenterNompton

@MrMan:" When you have actual insight into play on the field feel free to join the discussion. Until then, take your mindless drivel to ESPN and the other boards filled with equally useless garbage.''
So, unless I miss what you are trying to say is that only those who have played, professionally or not, are entitled to have an opinion.
Is that correct?

September 27, 2012 at 9:20 AM | Unregistered CommenterNo. 42

I am very concerned with Hamilton ~ and if he really does have ocular keratitis ~ it can cause many problems. Not trying to be funny ~ but my dog had a form of keratitis & almost completely lost her sight. She required sugery & still has issues with her sight and how she focuses. I have to administer drops everyday. One of the main symptoms of keratitis is dry eye~ the eye isn't producing tears on its own. Josh definitely didn't seem on his game last night & seemed to definitely be suffering. I feel he has had this problem for some time & it is just progressing. I hope he recovers soon. I know he has professional goals for himself. But if he continues to have these problems on the fileld ~ he hurts both the team & himself. So he is probably very frustrated because of all of this. This is a condition that just doesn't go away over night I feel that Craig Gentry would be the best player to fill that position. He has more than consistently proven himself both defensively & offensively. He is probably the best at CF & does very well at the plate. And his speed is something we sorely lack. In June when we played the A's he got a 3 run triple. We really need him now!

September 27, 2012 at 10:06 AM | Unregistered CommenterMarshaHart

"Someone said, "Did you have any positive remarks for Josh after the last two games in which he played great?"

For doing his job? No. He's paid handsomely to play baseball well."

It's not his job to play well, it's also not his job to carry the team, it's his job to play baseball. You only hope that he plays well, and that goes for every baseball player and contract. On his end, he can only try to play well. But just because someone is trying, that doesn't guarantee good results. That also doesn't mean that when the results aren't good, the person isn't trying.

So if you do something incredible for your company, you don't want any support and commendation because you're just "doing your job"? That's ridiculous. Doing normal day-to-day things, sure that's normal. But doing great things for your company over an expanded period of time is commendable. 43 home runs and 100 RBI? Commendable. $2.8 million per WAR? Commendable.

I myself have had days where everything has just gone horribly wrong at work and mistakes pile on top of each other and I would get beaten down over it. What should I do, keep beating myself up? Or just smile and say it's in the past and try to let it off my shoulders? Why make yourself miserable when you can just smile and move on? Everybody is different in the way they cope with frustration, some may prefer to vent frustration by punching walls, breaking bats, but apparently smiling or "grimacing" is Hamilton's.

But that also doesn't mean success is bound to follow frustration after you deal with it. If he frowned instead of smiled after a swinging strike, does that increase his chances of making contact on the next swing? It doesn't, so why do you even care about his mannerisms on the field? He just tried to put the error behind him, the misjudged fly ball, the bad swings, it just didn't work last night. That's all there is to it.

When you think about it, you criticizing a player for the way they're trying to cope with frustration is ridiculous and becomes apparent that perhaps your way of dealing with frustration is trolling on a player that has done so much for the franchise.

Let me guess, when the Rangers win or when Hamilton has a good game you don't say a word. 4 home runs in one game? Oh, he's just doing his job.

September 27, 2012 at 10:10 AM | Unregistered CommenterT

@No. 42. Clearly Josh should start scowling and getting tense during games and throwing his bat and generally acting pissed off when he has a bad AB instead of trying to keep it light and shrug it off. And he should do this, *not* to make himself peform better (because his hard won knowledge about what helps or hurts his performance is of no consequence to you) but to make you feel better, AND (and this is the best part) TO MAKE THE OTHER TEAM KNOW THAT HE IS *REALLY BOTHERED* BY STRIKING OUT. Yes, I am sure that the other team knowing that he is bothered is the critical difference between winning and losing.

September 27, 2012 at 10:15 AM | Unregistered CommenterNo. 43