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I thought maybe we could take this down a productive path. But I was wrong. We've entered the land of nonsense again. So I'll have to exit stage left.
See you around, RFan.
The goal of Saber, relative to pitching, has been to evaluate a pitcher by removing luck and extracting his performance from the quality of his defense.
HitF/X gives us the way to truly do that. Here is the path moving forward. NEXTGEN saber will centrally focus on these things:
-Strike-outs-Walks-Opposing batter-ball trajectory-Opposing batter ball velocity-League adjustments
There might be other refinements of course, eg.-Game time temp and humidity.-Quality of Batters Faced-Command metrics using the new CommandF/X
But the first 6 items will be the core.
This approach brings empirical weight to every single at-bat. It doesn't throw data away as FIP does. It doesn't take a Photoshop blur brush and smear away the HR/Flyball variations of a league of pitchers as SIERA does.
THIS. IS. NEXTGEN.
I'm going to throw you boys a filet mignon link...a discussion that spans the use of Pitch/FX, the imminent makeover of (if you can believe it) the Houston Astros...and the magic man Mike Fix.
In all humility I have to point out that the author (HardBallChat's Scott Barzilla) seems to agree with my contentions:1. PitchF/X and HitF/X are gold mines.2. Current saber is "crude and simple"3. We are poised for a "new frontier"
Keep in mind Barzilla doesn't even delve much into hit/FX, which will be constitute the true BOMB when it arrives and starts to permeate through Baseball's Hydrologic System.
Ah, but I almost forgot the link:http://www.hardballchat.com/2012/02/the-next-frontier-in-sabermetrics/
I don't why I'm doing this, but . . .
Just to prevent anyone from being misled, I'll point out that the pitch f/x data that ProfarMVP keeps clamoring about isn't all that new. Fangraphs has reported this information on their website for a while now, and many people on this site (including Joey) have used it extensively, particularly in the discussions about Josh Hamilton and his struggles earlier in the year. Sabermetricians will no doubt find new ways to incorporate this data into player analysis. None of that will change the fact that FIP, a very simple method that a smart 6th grader could understand and calculate, explains 96% of RA9 wins (runs allowed WAR for pitchers) over large samples.
For anyone actually interested in learning about this stuff, I'd recommend sites like Fangraphs, Baseball Propectus, and Insidethebook.com. A lot of the things that are said about saber here on BBTIA are false or misleading.
Here are a couple links for anyone interested in learning about pitch f/x. There's a lot of info out there on it, but this should get you started.
RFan has not been paying attention and is misleading the forum.
Pitch/FX isn't new. HitFX on the other hand is new and is not even publicly accessible at this time. I've been beyond clear about this on multiple occasions.
Also coming: COMMANDf/x and FIELDf/x
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