Forum > Young playing 2nd tonight!
Everybody in baseball is shaking their head in disbelief at Ron Washington.
ProfarMVP
^^^ that ^^^
Guest
Enough is enough. I have been willing to grant the guy leeway given his reputation as a player's coach. I'm over it. The guy should be fired for complete ineptitude as far as I'm concerned. I don't care that the masses won't understand. I don't care that he's winning. This is managerial decisions I would expect a JV coach at a AA school to handle better.
aggiecurt05
This is making my Cowboys thread look more relevant by the second.
#ihateyouRON
The_Henchmen
He actually doesn't completely suck a 2nd, but has the range of a sloth. He does suck at the plate though.
Tex Pantego
"I don't care that he's winning".
REALLY???????????????????????
You think a manager who has taken a team to the WS twice in a row and who is marching toward another post season run should be fired.
REALLY????????????????????????
Rangers are 80 and 55 with a .593 winning PCT which is the best in the American League, yet Wash is making managerial decision that are worse than "a JV coach at a AA school".
REALLY???????????????????????
You don't care what the masses think? Dude, you aren't apart from the masses, you ARE the hoi polloi.
rickyboy
Ron Washington is the troll of trolls.
Nompton
OK, this may seem like a little bit off the wall ("Out of left field" seemed too punny), but I have similar feelings for a long time "successful" coach at my alma mater, UT Austin. I would fire Mack Brown if I could, and I would have fired him anytime before or even immediately after UT won their last national championship over USC in the 2006 Rose Bowl. People are hung up on "but he is winning, how can you not like him?", but we need to look for some sort of causation, not just correlation. Is the team winning BECAUSE of RW or IN SPITE OF RW. Hence, they can be winning, and you can still think he should go. It's entirely rational.
Fire RW and also fire Mack Brown. Vince Young won that National Championship in spite of the terrible coaching of Mack Brown. "But Mack Brown is winning! He's a great recruiter!" Seriously? You don't really have to recruit at UT. It's a state filled with incredible football talent. It would be an indictment of Mack Brown if he *didn't* have top grade recruiting classes year in and year out.
Wookiie
my god. why do people credit managers for a team's success?
wingsofjoy
Oakland plays 16 road games in their last 26 games. If they somehow manage to play .615 baseball against that schedule they can get to 92 wins.
If the Rangers go 13-14 the rest of the way they win 93.
The division race is over.
All that really matters at this point is having the team dialed in at playoff time. Whether the line ups Wash is running out there accomplish that can be debated, and is ad nauseum.
I'll enjoy the winning baseball down the home stretch and save the angst for lineups that look questionable in the post season.
Guy
We should clearly keep Roy Oswalt, Luis Martinez and Brandon Snyder on the roster.
You know...because we're winning.
CJ
@aggiecurt05 I in fact know a AA varsity coach that would make worse decisions...such as a hit + run down by 4 in the 7th...It was a long season
On another note, at least MY isn't completely sucking at the plate in this series and the few games before that. If he is gonna play lets at least hope he continues this trend.
Fajita
Putting MY was a terrible decision. If Profar had been playing, he would have hit at least 4 HR's. So MY's HR doesn't count.
RobCola63
Guy-You're right the A.L should be a done deal now. Further, as I much as I have been critical of Young I have also blogged that Ranger fans need to pull for Young as he is going to be in the lineup. As much as I would like to see more of Gentry and get Profar/Olt more opportunities it is almost too late for Olt and I don't see Profar, with his age, getting time from Washington. I wished Wash would have managed Olt differently but now this late in the season the only bench player that I feel we can advocate for getting more time is Gentry. (Profar is too young in Wash's book and Olt has been frozen out and confidence has been destroyed. Washington even admitted to this in tonight's pre game show.)
So, we have to hope that Young brings it in the post season and the pitching steps up.
Mfix
I didn't hear what Wash said pre game. But, if irregular playing time produces a K filled 1 for 20 stretch, the player probably has a few holes on his swing that ML pitching is exposing. I wouldn't dump it all on Wash. Trout sucked in his first taste during last years call up. It's a BIG jump. If Ron's primary priority was Olt's success, he could have played him every day for three weeks. But when Olt was called up, the division was still in doubt. Developing a young player wasn't the primary priority.
Gentry is the one that baffles me. He's looked awfully good and I wish he'd had a chance to prove himself, or not, against a more extended run of play against RHP.
Guy
@wookiie - Is the team winning BECAUSE of RW or IN SPITE OF RW.
I'm reminded of a certain Cliff Lee 'politically incorrect' quote:
Q. What makes Ron Washington so special to play for?CLIFF LEE: He's a laid back guy, kind of lets things unfold, enjoys baseball. You know, he's got a really easy team to manage, I know that much, with just the talent that's in the room. Usually when you have really good players, that makes the manager that much better. I don't know if that's politically correct to say that or whatever, but when you've got a team like this, you'd had a hard time screwing that up, to be honest with you, at least offensively. I've had to face them over the years, and it's not a lot of fun. When you start pitching around Josh Hamilton and then you're staring at Vladimir Guerrero and Nelson Cruz and Ian Kinsler, it's not a lot of fun because it's a very powerful lineup. I feel like I could fill that lineup every day and throw it out there.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20101026&content_id=15853104¬ebook_id=15853232&vkey=notebook_tex&c_id=tex
It was obvious to Lee the Rangers were winning in spite of Wash's inferior managing back then, and we are on the verge of paying a serious price for it now, regardless of our record. Wash has been here...what?...five years already? That is a good run for all but the best of managers these days. His coaching-derived message of attention to detail, defensive emphasis, aggressiveness and accountability was a breath of fresh air when he arrived but after several years we are past that now and at the point where this team needs a good manager, not just a good coach. I honestly really liked Wash during the time his message was breathing life back into this organization but I think that has now run its course and it is time for another, new voice - a managerial voice. Who that could be is another topic and it likely won't happen until the off season, and I just hope Wash doesn't end up costing us our postseason in the meantime. Make no mistake Wash sunshiners - the type of lineup mismanagement that he has gotten away with in the regular season so far will absolutely get us beat in the short sample-size of the playoffs. I wonder if Cliff Lee is available after the regular season - maybe he could be brought on to at least fill out our lineup card.
LC75039
"I don't care that he's winning".
REALLY???????????????????????
You think a manager who has taken a team to the WS twice in a row and who is marching toward another post season run should be fired.
REALLY????????????????????????
Rangers are 80 and 55 with a .593 winning PCT which is the best in the American League, yet Wash is making managerial decision that are worse than "a JV coach at a AA school".
REALLY???????????????????????
You don't care what the masses think? Dude, you aren't apart from the masses, you ARE the hoi polloi.
Lol!
Keystone Heavy


Hell yeah!