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Just did some digging around and noticed josh hamiltons stats are about identical to trumbo's minus a couple RBI. That said he is much younger and not much baggage. Who takes him now over josh? I do for sure given what we know. Wow angels have two guys no one thought of at beginning of year who r better than anything we run out there. It's why I say angels catch us at some point IF we don't sign hamels or grienke.
Breath. It helps.
Josh has me worried; His June and July performance is awful. Hopefully Wash will give him some time off so he can turn it around.
Maybe josh needs new eye drops that help him see the ball anytime. At this rate I feel sorry for whoever commits to him long term unless its the angels. He has Adam Dunn of years past w/ less power written all over him. I never saw someone who is so dead set on swinging. It's as if he goes to the plate saying im is going to swing at pitches 1-3-4 or 1-2-4. He has to much talent to not be able to adjust to what pitchers are doing. I really think he is a dumb jock who gets by on pure talent. If Barry Bonds was getting the pitches josh Hamilton is right now he would have had an obp. somewhere near .600.
Trumbo is good power/average hitter but he isn't even a 3 tool player. Josh has five tools...plus a pair.
Hamilton, The Hammer will rise up again to do more Thor impressions this season. I suspect that the Rangers have dialed him back on the base-paths this year to keep him healthy. He'll demo all five tools this post season. Mark it down now.
Not even consider contracts, Trumbo because of youth.
I'd still take Hamilton. For the reasons that ElvisMVP mentioned. Hamilton is an all-around player while Trumbo certainly has a strong bat but isn't "special" in any other category. That being said, Trumbo's youth makes him tough to pass up on for sure.
Josh > Trumbo, and it's not even particularly close.
Like Elvis said, Trumbo isn't even a 3-tool player. He's got a bat, and that's it. Even at that, he's due for some regression in the 2nd half. His strikeout rate is still over 20%, though this year he's nearly compiled as many walks (23) as he did in all of 2011 (25).
You can knock Hamilton for how he's been hitting as of late, but he'll still finish with 40-45 home runs and 120+ RBI, and I'm banking on a .300+ BA. He still runs well, still plays a pretty good outfield (even though it doesn't reflect in his UZR), and will go on a couple more tears before the season is over.
Trumbo doesn't have a position, doesn't play any positions well, and is pretty much maxing out the only tool he possess. I don't think he ends up over the .300 mark, and I have my doubts that he'll even be above .280 by the time the season is over.
Now if you replace the words "Mark Trumbo" with "Mike Trout", "Bryce Harper", "Buster Posey", or a few other select youngins' (possibly Jason Heyward). Then yes, Josh would be gone in a heartbeat.
Schoenfield at ESPN writes:
Player A: .298/.371/.612 Player B: .311/.364/.634
Player A is Josh Hamilton. Player B is Trumbo. The only Angels player to slug .600 was Troy Glaus in 2000. Trumbo could do it this year.
I agree that Hamilton is a better player than Trumbo. But Jon Daniels will have to decide how-many-millions-a-year better he is and is going to be moving forward.
The problem is, moving forward Hamilton looks to become a classic 90s Rangers: lots of power, lots of strike outs, not a lot of walks.
For this year? I'll take Josh. But I guess moving forward if I'm forced to choose between the two I'll take Trumbo. I just feel like probably after year one of his next contract that Hamilton will just fall apart.
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