Forum > Trade Talk...this time for real
Trade them to Baltimore. Baltimore seems to have a thing for ex-Ranger players.
tscotty85
In all serious, after reviewing the proposed trade and looking at numbers, I don't think it is a bad deal. I am just not sure that the Padres would take Feldman and Lowe. The Padres know what the Rangers have in the farm system thanks to the trade last year of Adams for Wieland and Erlin. I think you have to throw in two higher valued prospects in place of Lowe and Beltre. I would assume Olt would be on their radar in place of Beltre and probably another high value pitching prospect in place of Lowe. That is just my guess though.
Qualifier: I will never be a GM so this may not even be close to a rational trade.
tscotty85
Quentin might be a good find for a rental if we can avoid giving up really important pieces. Offhand, this doesn't seem like a bad trade. I might do this if we could give Borbon or Beltre but not both. Borbon is doing pretty good in AAA right now, but I think he may have Chris Davis syndrome. Perhaps a change of scenery will do him good...not sure about Engel, who hasn't gotten a chance in the bigs yet.
One of the better trades I've seen proposed, IMHO. Only thing is, the Padres have approximately 872 pitchers just waiting to get their shot. I'm not sure if they would want 2 more. Maybe they do, I dunno.
Andy
Gregerson is not a lefty.
Marco
@ Marco -- you're right Gregerson is not a lefty but we could possibly substitute Eric Stults if need be. The real get would obviously be Quentin...
JV
A right handed hitting outfielder? What for? How would we use him in our OF rotation other than maybe put him in for Murphy and keep Hamilton at center when we face a left handed pitcher.
I've thought about possible future trades and I don't see alot of immediate non-bench needs when I look at this team. The #1 guy I would like to see upgraded is ALberto Gonzalez. Just someone with a somewhat better bat to justify putting him in the field more than PADMY.
Something else I wouldn't mind seeing is trying to work away Travis d"Arnaud or, more realistically, J.P Arencibia from Toronto. They obviously aren't going to be able to have BOTH of those guys starting, and we have both of our ML catchers coming off the books with our best catching prospect a couple years away. Now obviously Arencibia is no Napoli, but he would be cheaper and give us some flexibility to sign someone else. Ande he would have a few more years under team control. And if he breaks a 100 wRC+ while he is here, all the better. at the moment he trails Nap in WAR by .1, but the defense component of WAR for catchers is iffy at best. I just don't think it would hurt to trade for him now and have a Arencibia/Napoli rotation with the intention of Arencibia maybe being the starting catcher next year.
Keystone Heavy
They can upgrade Gonzalez in September with a kid named Profar.
I would like to see a RH bat. At the moment, if there's a RH SP replaced by a LH RP and you want to ph for a Moreland or Murphy, your options are some mix of the underwhelming (Gentry, Torrealba), the more underwhelming (Snyder) and the totally bat-less (Gonzalez). A PH bat like this will be crucial come playoffs, but can also often be had in July or even August.
Scooby Dude
Hey, Snyder owns a line of .324/375/.595 with 3 HRs in 40 PAs, good enough for 0.4 fWAR already. Compare that to, say, Kevin Youkilis, whose line (since I looked it up for an earlier post) is .250/.318/.406, with 4 HRs in 107 PAs, worth only 0.1 fWAR. That must mean Snyder's better, right?
Andy
Is Jermaine Dye available?
Problem is, there aren't any good Righty pinch hitters that won't cost an arm and a leg.
The "Chone-figgins-needs-a-change-of-scenery" concept has always been in the back of my mind. He used to be really good and he's not that old, and can play nearly every position. Wouldn't give a lot for him, but I'd take a flyer at the right price.
Profar ready for a utility role is interesting, but I think that moves up his free agency clock start, so it's probably only happens if he's really on fire... plus, he's at an age where you want him getting ABs everyday, not two or there ABs a week.
Tex Pantego
It only moves up his FA clock if he goes back to the minors next year. If, say, the plan was for him to be in the starting lineup in 2013, then September-October 2011 is a freebie.
Scooby Dude
September-October 2012, that is.
Scooby Dude
A RH hitting OFer. Hmmmmmm I like Carlos Quentin or Jeff Francroer to rotate with Murphy. Murphy has improved his defense quite a bit and he's a notoriously slow starter. Leave Josh in CF.
Roy
Keystone,
I really, really like the idea of trading for a catcher, but you would have to trade Torrealba as well. I'm sure there are takers, but none truly come to mind. (Qualifier: no research done hence the comes to mind part of that statement.) Package him in a deal to Toronto so they have a backup to whichever one we don't get?
tscotty85
@tscotty85 Nationals and Tampa could really use a catcher these days
619
I'm with Keystone on Toronto's catching situation. They doesn't need another catcher but they might listen on JP Arencibia. They've got a pretty solid prospect in Travis d'Arnaud who seems to be just about ready in AAA with triple slash of .323/.371/.542.
arp


Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com is reporting that the Rangers are “expected to make right-handers Scott Feldman and Mark Lowe available at the trade deadline.” He goes on to suggest that “GM Jon Daniels will look for a right-handed hitting outfielder in return.”
What do you guys think of trading Feldman (plus 600K for buyout next year), Lowe, Borbon, and/or Engel Beltre to San Diego for Carlos Quentin and Luke Gregerson?
Quentin is wasted on a last place team and we desperately need another lefty...especially if Feldman is traded and Ross is more of a long man.
thought?