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This is what people know about Yu right now:
A very few MLB officials know the amount of the high bid and the high bidder.
The Nippon Pig Fighters know the high bid.
A lot of people might know the high bid if the Pigs leaked it.
However, no one, except those very few MLB officials knows the high bidder.
Therefore, it seems that all speculation about the identity of the high bidder comes from MLB teams that have leaked their bid or who have said their bid was really really big, read "biggest bid," but they don't really know that they just hope that.
If all of the above is true then it makes no sense to identify a front runner unless all of the teams have leaked their bids, and one has emerged from the dust as a really big bid.
But we know that isn't true, we know that one team, being totally clandestine in its dealings, has not leaked its bid. We know at least one team, our very own, has not leaked its bid. Afterall, what would be the point of leaking your bid and pretending, hoping, that it was the biggest when you have no idea.
This is what I'm thinking....the noble richies of the Barnett Shale decided they needed Yu to counter Pujols/Wilson. Their bid is around 55 million, sure to win. They played up the lack of payroll flexibility as a chess move to lower Toronto's bid, to increase the likelihood of 55 being enough, with 5 or 7 to spare.
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All this Blue Jay talk is just some insecure BS fueled by a team that plays its cards readily out of fear they aren't good enough. Meanwhile, we all know Toronto's bid is really high, but what we don't know is that Texas' bid is higher.
I also want to say that if the Yankees bid was high that is all we would be hearing so it must be insufficient and they know it. Put the Cubs in the same boat.
Or maybe I'm wrong and we really do have payroll flexibility problems, and that is fine too. I want Darvish but he is risky and we have a lot of pitching talent already. I say if we don't get Yu we ought to go into the season with what we have and see if anything comes available during the season. That would be better than giving up too much for Garza or Gio.
keep hope alive. i like the positivity.... even if its probably fruitless
Always look on the bright side of life.
It may smack of a conspiracy theory, but you're right. As far as I know, there have been no facts stated about the Rangers' involvement, or if they're even involved at all. All we know is what the rumormongers pass along. Some of that stuff turns out to be true, and some is way off base.
I also don't think it's particularly likely that we'll sign Darvish, given all the unknowns and the difficulty of assigning a percentage chance to something when the only thing you have to go on is feelings based on past dealings and lots of (deliberately) vague statements. If we do, awesome. If we don't, we'll make do. I doubt we're going to go from first to worst just because we lost one pitcher, especially when at least 3 of our pitchers probably haven't hit their ceiling yet.
Stay the course, Rangers. Don't blow up the farm or trade 2-for-1s for guys that are marginal upgrades. In you we trust.
Good post, Joe.
Nice post Joe, with Yu we would have 5 power arms in the starting rotation that are young. Keep the core together. Let the Maddox boys do what they do, and mentor this young rotation to be the second coming of the nineties Atlanta Braves rotation.
Another factor to look at as reliable hints are what is the available expenditure and is that team looking elsewhere at talent. Fielder for example seems to be even more targeted by the Cubs and Jays while for some not apparent reason the Yanks and Rangers are alarmingly very quiet. Another poser in this rare process, can it turn on a NBA oddity, Cuban would have knowledge to this concept, Sign And Trade. In bids, it behooves a bidder too have more then one closed bid on their side. So the poser is can Yu be involved in a Sign and Trade or does he have to be treated like a Rule V.
Nice stuff, Joe. Conjecture is one thing. Cliff Lee was a suppossed Yankee in 2010. Pujols was a Marlin.Y may well be a BJ. But if I have learned one thing in this business? Never take anything for granted.
Rangers seem to like International players and love to overpay them.It would not suprise me if they went over 50 mil for Darvish.The way they may be looking at this: When is going to be another opportunity to get a pitcher with this kind of talent for 5-6 years and 120 mil? My awnser to that is; Never
"Peter Gammons of MLB Network tweets that the Blue Jays "went to the end" on Mat Latos, though the Reds ultimately won out. Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports also hears Toronto was a finalist on Latos, though he doesn't know the details of their offer (Twitter links). The Jays are one team that could have comfortably matched the quantity and quality of the prospects Cincinnati sent to San Diego."
I dunno, but does that sound like Toronto is 100% convinced they are the winner of Darvish? I know it's certainly possible they did and were trying to acquire Latos, but why do that even before the winning team is announced? I see nowhere that the Rangers are involved in very hot, deep trade discussions at the moment......to me, this goes hand in hand with Joe's assessment, and maybe, just maybe, the Rangers did actually prevail here. Damnit, Tuesday cannot get here soon enough.
Also, was reported last night that the bid on Darvish will exceed Boston's Dice-K bid. If true (Nippon Ham have an employee or 2 leaking the info?) combine that with another rumor accompanying the "Blue Jays won" storyline, the rumor that the Jays bid between 40-50 mil, it would lend someone to deduce they did not bid high enough since the record obvioulsy would exceed 51.1 mil. I'm also noticing the Yankees are being very quite through this process, a fact that has me wondering about their bid now.
Yes....the Yankees being quiet is odd...the biggest peep we've heard from them is that they weren't interested in C.J. And some of us (including some Yankees fans) thought that sounded too much like "Bubba Crosby will be our centerfielder." Well, perhaps "we submitted only a modest bid for Yu Darvish" is coming out of the same place...you never know with those sneaky pinstriped dudes...
Scoops we know reported: 4 teams bid on Yu with the wiNning bid over 51mil. The Cubs made a 'because he is too expensive no one will bid' low ball bid. The Yankees well accustomed to the bidding process made a 'modest bid' by their standards which probably fits under the definition o conservingly aggressive. The Jays were aggressive, reported in the high 40s. That leaves but one other team that is not under the 51 threshold. Quess who? An entertaining thought about Yu is that he is like the really great and costly gift under the Christmas Tree, successful or a Chan Ho it will prove a major focal point for 2012 season and that much coverage alone may be worth the cost, not to mention millions of pounds of Texas Ranger memorabilia running rampart through the islands of the Archipelago of Nippon.
First, its possible Toronto's bid is higher than high 40s?
Second, is it possible there is a fifth mystery bidder with the mammoth bid and that the high bidder, therefore, is not Texas.
Have the Angels actually said that they didn't bid?
I'm hearing it's between us, the Jays, Yankees, and Cubs. I heard that the Angels are out. But they are calling the bid "sky high" which is just a metaphor that the Jays may have won. But who knows. We'll have to wait (some more) and see.
It's the Diamondbacks. Nobody saw it coming.
Maybe the "sky high" reference is a metaphor for Wash's cocaine use a couple of years ago, and the Rangers have the high bid. Don't rake me over the coals for going there...
Or maybe it's a reference to the Rockies.
How awesome would it be if it's the Astros...
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Now we see why they were never in on cj. Good job calling this one joe!!!
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