What is your opinion of the A.J. Pierzynski signing?
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Can anyone give me an idea of what fancy closers are going for these days? 10-12 million a year at least?
I suspect the presence of Mike Adams is an essential factor in making this risk acceptable.
Bottom line, this FO is reluctant to spend top dollar on fancy bullpen help.
This is no drop in the bucket but it does give you high potential ceiling for up to 10 million (is that number reasonable?) less over two years, and potentially 15 million less over three if he works out and shows he still has it until his age 39-40 season?
Furthermore, some fancy closers out there do not have near the track record that Nathan does. Maybe your alternative is spending 10-13 million a year on a piece of china with a nice shine but that's made of something else underneath. Sure, Nathan is a risk, but he's a good fit for a FO unwilling to buy that china in the form of a bullpen pitcher no matter the shine or the substance for that matter. And maybe he doesn't turn out to be your closer for the foreseeable future. Maybe he could still be a serviceable or better middle reliever or setup man. That would take the sting out of having to eat that 7 million a year. Then you are only losing about 3-5 million a year? I think the judgment was made that the worst case scenario (Nathan turns into a pumpkin and is good for nothing) is unlikely. Then the further judgment was made, that given the unlikelyhood of the pumpkin that Nathan was worth the 7 million because of the high potential ceiling he could possibly return to, that he did return to for a short time last year as Joey pointed out. The calculation wasn't so much asking the question "Will Nathan be old Joe or turn into a pumpkin?" but rather "We are pretty sure the pumpkin isn't in his future so are we willing to take the risk that he might make it as a middle or setup reliever rather than our closer? Are we willing to risk eating 4 million a year or so assuming a very good setup man could cost as much as 2-3 for a shot at having a shiny closer for half price?" So maybe you are thinking a good setup man could cost much less. Maybe, and especially if you grow him yourself, but the Rangers have so little money tied up in their bullpen right now that its a little weird (Scott Feldman notwithstanding, but his millions were written off as lost a year ago anyways). Perhaps the judgment was made that they needed to throw some millions at their bullpen considering the World Series walk totals and what not. Maybe the idea of having some millions tied up in a risk is not all that bad when you consider how much money you don't have in the bullpen in the first place. I think a lot of different philosophies converged for this deal, anti-bullpen spending, pro-bullpen spending and everything in between. My hunch is that this deal was only entered into with the assurance that ownership would eat shit if it goes south. I sense the involvement of the noble rich men of the Barnett Shale is starting to increase.
We shall see, we shall see if this strange confluence of philosophies will prove another brilliant move for JD and company.
Right now I'm just wondering where the hell this shit comes from. You know what I'm saying?
You don't get that rich by not taking a big risk from time to time. It seems like that's what we are seeing here. Its quite refreshing in my opinion. The FO is badass, just badass with those noble richies, Nolan, Thad, JD, and all the little brainies running around. I love it.
What a freaking awesome organization! And human too, likeable, altruistic. Love it to death. Oh shit, we did just die. Game 6, twice. I'm still in shock honestly, just pretending it didn't happen. I'd die at least a few more times for this organization, and there is always always always next year.
I do not like this signing. I didn't like the Beltre contract, nor the Mike Young deal several years ago. Beltre will pay off, short-term. Mike is what he is, this teams MVP. Yet I still contend they were all bad deals. Nathan is a bad deal.... you"ll see it. Indicative sign that C.J. is gone.
Texas just signed the best closer the AL has had over the last 7 years, that even includes MARIO, for 1/2 what RIVERA is being paid by the Yankees. Yes, he has had Tommy John, but in 2010. Look for 2012 to be a return of old. Fastball, which dropped slightly from previous years, will be back. The Rangers just signed the best choice of all, including Papalbon, free agent closers. This will pay off BIG.
I am not sure if Nathan is the best available, but at this price, he is a steal. I love this move. If he sucks, he amounts to a little more cost wise than Arthur Rhodes. The biggest plus to this deal in my mind is that Feliz will now be in the rotation to start the year. I love this move. (have I said that yet?)
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