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Can someone explain to me why the following scenario doesn't make sense? Take on some payroll next year in an all out effort to win the WS before the core starts to fall apart. Sign either Darvish/Wilson/Buehrle/Danks and sign Fielder. Then, if need be, reduce payroll next year by letting Hamilton go.
Rangers have this golden opportunity to go all out for a WS title next year, without having to commit to a huge payroll for years to come (because of the opportunity to drop Hamilton next year). They can get Hamilton and Fielder together for one year and then basically, after that Fielder replaces Hamilton. I'm fine with that. Fielder is a more consistent offensive player than Hamilton, he's younger, and he's less injury prone. (Fielder's total WAR over the last 3 years is better than Hamilton's, and his offensive numbers are a lot better.) Much of Hamilton's value is as a defensive player and he's going to decline quickly in that area with age.
I agree with you RFan. However I think the Feliz discussion/direction will dictate wether or not they will be a serious player on another starting pitcher and I would add Cahill to that wish list of pitchers
Cahill is signed with Oakland at least until 2015 and has two options for 16 and 17 and I really doubt Oakland would trade him to a division rival
I would trade Hamilton straight up for Tim Lincecum or Hamilton and Olt for Lincecum.
Subtract Danks from any SP wish list. Otherwise, this is spot on.
i agree with David 100%.
also did you guys see what The Express said about pujols and the fat man? he said no, basically, he has confidence in Mitch, which is fine with me.
I'll be damned... Nolan agrees with me? Should open some eyes, but likely wont.
Fielder had a slightly better year offensively than Josh did. Josh is better defensively than Fielder. I don't get why everyone is like, "dump Hamilton and get Fielder instead."
I like Fielder. I wouldn't mind having him. But I see no reason to replace Josh with him. Yeah, he's a few years younger. But I don't think he's that much of an upgrade, especially considering their differences on defense.
And it probably doesn't matter anyway. It looks like they won't be signing Prince.
Ryan didn't say he would prefer to have Moreland over Pujols/Fielder.
He said that he does not think that the Rangers are ready to make a 7-8 year commitment to either one of them, and that he EXPECTS Moreland to be the starting 1B next year.
We don't really have a replacement, except Mitch or course, but I think moving Josh to 1st reduces his injury risk a lot, and thus more signable. As an OF, I don't see JOsh getting a long term/big $ guaranteed contract from anybody. He just can't stay healthy and isn't getting any younger. Someday he's going to lose that amazingly quick swing, and then he becomes an average hitter real fast.
"I'll be damned... Nolan agrees with me? Should open some eyes, but likely wont."
Uh, I think you mean YOU agree with Nolan. Nolan comes first, then you. Get it?
Andy, Fielder is 3 years younger. The last 6 seasons he's played 155+ games every year; Hamilton has 1 155+ game season in his entire career. Fielder's had 3 seasons with a 150+ wRC+; Hamilton's had 1, and no others are even close. Fielder's had 3 seasons with a .400+ wOBA; Hamilton's had 1. Fielder's had 3 seasons of a 5+ WAR; Hamilton's had 1.
Fielder is a huge upgrade over Hamilton, especially when you consider that Hamilton's defense is likely to decline pretty rapidly. The only reason to go with Hamilton over Fielder is that the Rangers think the price will be a lot cheaper; it definitely will be and for good reason.
All that means is that Fielder is an upgrade over Hamilton if Prince's performance continues and Hamilton's declines. Jose Bautista had 5 mediocre years before he became one of the best hitters in baseball. Does that mean he's not as good as someone who's been above-average, but not great, for 5 years?
Which one last won the MVP award? Which one costs less? Which one is the better all around player? Enough said. The childish inFATuation with Fielder is dumbfounding. He will not be here. I have said it all along, Nolan made it clear, yet the Prince hanger-on'ers won't let it go. Denial is a fickle bitch.
It's still very possible Fielder lands here. If we does we'll all have a field day saying I told ya so to Ricky in Ft Dub
Good luck with all that. But, "if we does" I'll eat crow. Unlike many cowards on here, I am man enough to admit when I am wrong. Most just disappear or change screen names, or hit and run. But I'd wager I am dead-on, as usual.
The old Ricky is back! Hey Rick - I challenge you to go a month without using any of the following phrases or words in your posts:
Cowardsdead-on man enoughbaseball knowledgebring it on I have said it dumbstupid childishpeople who have no cluetrue contributionbring knowledgeopinions factually basedI called it
I bet you can't do it.
I'd bet your right.
Andy, I think with established players like Hamilton and Fielder you have to evaluate them based on what they've done. If that's the measuring stick, then Fiedler has proved that he is the more consistent offensive player; on average, he plays at a much higher level offensively than Hamilton. Of course, maybe Hamilton will not suffer an injury over the next 5 years, will play at his peak, and will win several more MVP awards. And maybe Fielder will sign a big contract and then fall to pieces. And maybe Mitch Moreland will learn to hit lefties. But I don't see much of a basis for drawing any of those conclusions.
BTW, I love watching Hamilton play. I was at the Ballpark for many of the home games during that period in 2010 when he was on fire. I'm not sure I'll ever see a player play at that level again. But when you look over his career, that period seems to have been an aberration. He just can't stay healthy.
RFan, I do agree with you that you have to consider what they've done as well as their current level of performance. My point in bringing up Bautista is, no one would argue he's one of the best hitters in the game right now, and most teams would love to have him - at least, right now. But would that make him a slam-dunk for the best candidate for an addition to one's team? Not necessarily. As you pointed out, Prince has been fairly consistent for several years now. Some people would probably prefer him to Bautista for that reason. If Josh had had 3 or 4 years like 2010 instead of 1, people would probably think that of him as well. But 2010 Josh was unreal. I'm pretty sure only Pujols has had a season like that more than once in many many years (Bonds doesn't count; we all know the score there).
I think this year might give us a good idea of whether Josh is on the decline or not. He seems to have been up and down a bit year by year. If he has another year as good as this one or better, and doesn't take a prolonged stint on the DL, he's probably worthy of investing in. If not, maybe not.
Again, I would love to have Fielder on our team. No question. But is he so much better than Hamilton that I would advocate just dumping Josh? I don't think so. But I trust that the FO has considered this already, so if they decide to get Prince this year and then cut Josh loose next year, I'll probably be fine with it. They have earned our trust.
Personally though, I hope that, regardless of Prince, Josh has another great year, hopefully injury-free, and we lock him up for a few more years. If he doesn't, though, well...sometimes it doesn't work out like you hope.
Hamilton may just walk in 2013, but now he along with MY took this team to two World Series. The are the identity of this team, FACE if you lkike. After the 1927 World Series, after answering the obvious question. Yankees you just won the World Series what are you Going to do? We are going to Coney Island then we're going to trade Ruth and Gehring. But I do agree free agency changes things. So it turns the clock to Hamilton's decision to accept the Rangers long term offer.
Rfan I agree with you watching Josh in 2010 was awesome. I was lucky enough to get to go to the ALCS game 1 when he hit that first inning homer off CC and the whole Temple erupted. It'll always be one of my favorite Ranger memories ever. I was also at the game this summer when he had that walk off homerun to the HR porch. I hate to bring game 6 up but when he hit that extra inning 2 run homer i was so happy for him, but we all know how it ended. Josh's kids seem to love it here so maybe he would be willing to do a hometown discount? I'm sure in free agency some team with cash to spend who needs to fill seats would love to throw some good money at him.I don't know how it'll play out, but I'd love for him to stay a Ranger for life(and win a ring here)
I went ahead and took the liberty of nuking some posts in here, for whatever that's worth.
I don't think I see why such an infatuation is "childish." Also, if the Rangers did ultimately make some type of push for Prince, it would not signify the first time that a high-ranking member of the organization (GM/president) said one thing at an earlier time and then changed course at a later date.
Which isn't to say that Texas is likely to make a legitimate push towards signing Prince. I think the market is going to quickly balloon above and beyond the Rangers' comfort level. But I also don't think it's completely off the table, and I can very much see the allure that would drive the Rangers' interest if they ended up rethinking their presently stated position.
@ fireball Feliz i was also at that game 1 when he hit the homer off of CC, that is by far my best rangers memory ever. The place was so loud it was incredible.
Prince for the right price is one thing.Prince for what he is probably worth on the open market is another.As far as the comparison to Prince and Josh, do not forget that we are about to to get some serious salary relief from the Michael Young contract.
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