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I don't think I can say anything about Game 6 / the WS that hasn't already been said or convey and emotions that haven't already been felt.
The could have / would have / should have game we can play could go on ad infinitum. Unfortunately, no matter how many times we play the game, the results stay the same. As epic a loss as it was, I hope the only real loss for this team is the 2011 WS title. I hope some sort of nasty hangover doesn't settle in over Arlington as this team has a young nucleus and plenty of talent to be a force in the AL over the coming years.
That being said, how does JD and crew move forward this off season?
I have seen a lot of folks on this board get terribly excited at the prospect of Fielder or Pujols at 1B next season. I too can imagine a lineup that would almost be unstoppable and basically could not be pitched around. However, wouldn't this be the mid 90s Ranger approach? Load up on as many bombers as possible and hope the Rangers run tally is more than the other team at the end of the night?
As we just witnessed in this last WS, our offense is not the problem. We scored plenty of runs to bring the title home to Texas. Our pitching let us down and it is still our biggest weakness. And I think that it's both starting pitching (lacking a true TORP) and the bullpen.
I am of two minds re: CJ. He is a known quantity and although he has been abysmal in the postseason if he can provide 15-17 wins a year, he gets us that much closer to the winning the division and advancing again to the postseason.
I am sure JD and the Rangers brain trust will make the right moves in the off season, but what do you think the right moves/priorities are?
First of good points and good post.
Let me address 1st base. Absolutely no to Pujoles or Fat Ass. Fat boy is going to be the death of some club. When he eats his way into only being a DH, and a DH that clogs up the base paths even more than MY does we are back in the same boat, and that day could be next year with him. Pujoles is an asshole and he disappeared during the WS. So I pass on him.
I would rather keep CJ all though I would never go over 3 for 38 or 4 for 48. I doubt that gets it done but man I would think any of the big spending teams would be very afraid of him due to his lack of being able to perform with any kind of national spot light on him. The fact that Wash didn't start him in game seven speaks volumes about the amount of trust they had in him. Yu Darvish is the play, if you can keep CJ and teach Ogando a couple of more pitches and he can gain some durability you are pretty set. Although I don't know about Ogando in the rotation next year, if he can add a change up and some other offspeed yeah if not keep him in the BP.
Sign Yu Darvish.
I think the number one priority is pitching, why would we spend 20mil a year on a player to boost an offense that was third in the AL? But mhilgtx, Yu Darvish is a no go. Sure he might be nice to persue him for a little bit but he's still an unproven US pitcher. Ask the red sox how dice-k is doing. i say throw 25mil at CC if he opts out of his contract. He would be the only true TORP in free agency if he leaves. I say only persue Yu if CC doesn't opt out.
I would pass on CC he hasn't been effective in the play offs the last two years. Even more important is his weight. The guy is not going to last. Or at least I would not be willing to spend 25+ million a year on a long term contract and that is what it will take.
If not Yu Darvish (which many people say we are going after) then who?
I think you'll see a trade for a TORP and my guess is John Danks. I also think they will look at trading for a 1B and potentially another OF. I would not be surprised to see a move involving Hamilton or Face.
1) Prince Fielder became a vegetarian 3 years ago and has lost a little weight since then. He's not gettin fatter, he's getting slimmer (albeit very slowly- must eat too many french fries). He's not going to baloon up on you.
2) Signing a Prince/Albert and keeping Hamilton/Napoli/Kinsler/Cruz is not doable. However, if you don't want to pay Josh (due to injury) or want to trade Cruz in a deal for a Cole Hamels or someone, then signing Prince nd adding pitching becomes doable within the payroll structure. I'm all for letting Josh walk. He's unlikely to be healthy enough come October to be a major contributer in any given year, and I can't see going the 5-6 years it would take to lock him up. Bonus: you get both guys for 1 season, and that would be really fun.
3) Yu is going to be a stud. I get the Dice-K comp, but Yu has clearly better traditional stats, saber stats, and scouting reports from his Japanese career than Dice-K. Also, Dice-K went 18-3 his first year in Boston, then began to struggle and wound up under the knife for major shoulder surgery. Maybe his performance dropped off because the league figured him out, but maybe it was early signs of injury problems. And this is a risk with any pitcher (see Brandon Webb, Bedard, Pavano and many others).
Sign Yu and Prince, let CJ walk, let Josh walk next year, extend Napoli/Kinsler/Cruz, let Murphy walk and push Moreland into his LH bench role/4th OF role, bring Blanco back at Uti (he's a switch hitter, I might add), and rework a few spots in the bjullpen (need a new lefty) and this team is ready to roll.
This is to mhilgtx - who are your refering to as Fat A@@?
I agree no fatman (fielder) we don't need more offense. also. how would he hold up in the summer? remember where he plays now. Pujols is a no because we don't need more RH power.
Pitching Pitching Pitching. What if we could keep CJ and sign Darvish... or Oswalt?? and or the big man in NY (doubt we could afford him)
if we do this, we might have to lose Josh, and maybe we can squeeze out a more power replacement for Endy? instead of josh...
Well, we could always use more offense, but Prince and Pujols are not the answer at the price its going to take to get them. I also don't think spending what it will take to get CC is a good idea either. I dunno, I just don't like this plan of once you become successful start dropping wads of cash on players from other teams. I look at where that's gotten the Phillies for example - spending more and more each year since 2008 and losing a round earlier in the playoffs each year. If you have success like we've had the past two years, why change your game plan?
First priority is to shore up the rotation and bullpen. This would be a challenge even if CJ and guys in the pen like DO don't leave/retire. It will be an even bigger challenge if they do.
Losing Josh is also not the answer. I still go back to how the team plays with him in the lineup vs. without him. And, of course, the way he plays (even when he misses 1/4 - 1/3 of the year and doesn't have an MVP caliber season.
@Scoob - That's pretty good stuff. 2 things. 1) I want to keep Josh. I believe he wants to stay. We'll see how much he wants to stay. I know addictive personalities and they do not like change, thus I think he will make himself easily re-signable. 2) I've seen several guys in several sports get in shape, or as close as they could, to get the big contract, and then once they obtain it they let themselves get slovenly. If we do pursue Prince, I want a clause in that contract about weight.
And to whoever just refferred to John Danks as a TORP... Do you even know what that acronym means? John Danks is a #3 at best.
Starting ptiching and bullpen must be a priority. I"m curious about how much $$$$ the Rangers will spend this off season. The FOX TV deal is not far away so the money will be rolling in. Wait, it already is rolling in after this incredible run.
It angers people in this forum, but I still hold out hope that Pujols is a Ranger next year. The Cardinals will probably re-sign him, but I can always dream of him in the clean up spot.
Im all for keeping Josh, I would love for us to be able to keep CJ, and add a better pitcher and keep everyone else. I just don't know if we could afford it.
Darvish over Oswalt. Youth and better pitcher. German was a bad addition to the roster. He won't be here next year, but he will be at AAA, as he signed a new contract earlier this year. If Blanco had been 100%, German would not have even been here.
Like I said in the comments of Joey's last post, I think a true #1 will upgrade our team more than a Pujols, Fielder, Votto at 1B will. I understand why the sexiness of signing a big power hitting 1B has appeal but unless the terms are advantageous to the club, I don't see JD making a deal for one of those guys at 1B.
I am not opposed to the idea of leveraging the deep farm system for an ace that would be under club control for a few years. I am not at all confident that Darvish is the answer, I just have too many reservations on paying BIG money to Japanese pitchers.
But, in any case, I have faith in our organization to make the right calls, I just hope for my self-esteem that they agree with me ;)
Pickle - If you have read anything I have said, you will see that I agree with you. However, I think Yu is one answer. I'd like to see he and another added. If I went 5/$75M with either C.J. or Darvish? I go Darvish. A better pitcher by far and 7 years younger. I will make the trip to see how Ramirez and Perez look in the spring. Something has to change. But back to 1B, it wasn't who the 1st baseman was, it was who and how they were used. Mitch deserves a chance.
What has given you any solace that Moreland can hit LHP? Just like Murph, has to be able to hit LHP if you want to see the field everyday. They both are unable to do that.
Prince Fielder's 1st year in MLB, he hit .288 w/ 2 HR's in 39 games. His 2nd year? He hit .271 w/ 28 HR's. The following year he hit 50. My point is, while Mitch is no Prince, is that you dont quit on a good kid. He has excellent plate presence, patience and an eye. In his initial 2 years Mitch hit 25 HR'S with and Avg. of .258 in fewer games. I am just saying you need to give the kid a chance. You don't make the MLB if you suck. The kid has talent.
Not to mention Mitch's OBP was higher than Prince's in his first 2 years and that he can play other positions. Prince is a fat 1B, likely to be a DH soon. And if he follows his father's career, which appears likely, will be out of baseball at 34.
@Observer I am calling Prince Fielder Fat Ass.
Pitching has to be our #1 priority. Anyone who says otherwise wasn't watching the World Series.
1B and CF are the obvious places where we need something solidified. Maybe we have the answers in Mitch and one of the many guys that have played CF this year, maybe not. But pitching first. We have one of the best offenses in the league (top 3 or better by most metrics), and it's getting a year older, but otherwise no worse - unless we trade somebody.
I'm not sure where to start with pitching; we have plenty of guys who are worthy of spots in a rotation, but we (probably) don't have an ace to "lead" it...yet. We might next year.
Of the guys we know will be here next year (again, unless they're traded), Holland is my pick for most likely to be an ace someday. Any pitcher can be unbeatable for a day (see Don Larsen); Holland's been unbeatable enough times that we know it's not just a fluke when he pitches 8.1 shutout innings against one of the best offenses in baseball. I'm not sure what he needs to make those periodic bad starts into good ones, but I hope he finds it. Short of him becoming an ace by opening day (seems doubtful), he'll hopefully be #2 behind someone who is. But who?
As for the guys who want to shell out for Fielder or Pujols at the expense of letting Hamilton walk after 2012, I don't get it. But you're entitled to your opinion. Opinions aside, though, I doubt we'll see Pujols, unless no one offers him the contract he wants and he takes substantially less. But that doesn't seem terribly likely; there are apparently no shortage of teams who have money and are willing to spend it (unlike the Astros I think; I read that Jim Crane wants to cut the payroll if he takes over the team) and might give him such a contract. I have no idea what sort of contract Josh would be looking for after next year, but I can't imagine it's quite like those Albert and Prince will likely command. But...what do I know?
As usual, Andy, very astute, lucid, and intelligent comments. I for one, think you're as dead-on as they come.
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