What is your opinion of the A.J. Pierzynski signing?
MJH on accountability
Preface: I get that it is the World Series and it should be the primary focus, but...
It was mentioned last night in the game that Edwin Jackson is available as a free agent next season...if Ranger lets Seege walk, would it be viable to go after him...then push the rotation pieces forward to be Colby, Dutch, Harry, Jackson and Feldy\Ogando.
This is assuming the Rangers don't get one of Shields\Yu Darvish\Seege. My thoughts are this would also free up money to sign the pending free agents and maybe even get a RH bench bat.
The real quesiton is, is Edwin Jackson (or some other FA pitcher along those lines) a suitable back of the rotation starter for Ranger, or do you think that Ogando will develop a third pitch or that Feldy will find some consistency when in the starter role to make going after anything other than a TORP unnecessary given the pieces currently in place? If not Edwin Jackson, then who else might fit that bill?
Honestly the whole time Jackson was pitching last night, I kept wondering if working with Mike Maddux would help him become a better pitcher. It seems like Maddux has had a great impact on our young pitchers over the last few years, and if he teaches him a cutter, I think it would play very nicely with his mid 90s FB and sharp slider. But he can't replace CJ, as we would be left without someone who could be argued to be a #1, so if CJ walks, I think we will end up with Darvish or Shields as our Ace (maybe both since one can be had via FA market and the other via trade)
Jackson was impressive, and we are a little lefty heavy in SPs, both here and in our best SP prospects.
Playingfor so many teams is sometimes a red flag for bad clubhouse guy. Not saying I've heard anything about him, but you have to wonder why a young guy with his stuff gets traded away so much so early into his career.
Good point TexPan, and I do remember that when the White Sox got him, we were hearing that most of their front office guys had been coveting him for a while. Then within a year they flip him to the Cards, so that could be something to look at that maybe once they realized what kind of clubhouse guy he is and decided to unload him before it became too big a deal and they couldn't get value for him.
Things the Rangers have:
The best back-of-rotation in the AL
4 returning starters from the 2011 rotation
3 starters who were in their 1st full season in the rotation in 2011, who could easily get better
A 2009 17-game winner who was not in the 2011 rotation and may be healthy for the first time since 2009
A closer who was recently a top-10 prospect in all of baseball as a SP, and about whom the Front Office has repreatedly said they would make a starter if they thought he could be a TORP
2 highly regarded Sterting Pitching prospects, both at AAA, both of whom should be ready no later than 2013
A really good bullpen to support the starters
Things the Rangers don't have:
A legitimate Ace to front the rotation
That's about it. They have everything else.
Given that, I think the Rangers bring in Darvish to front the rotation, bring back CJ to front the rotation, bring in someone else to front the rotation (Shields, Sabathia, etc), or else just roll with what they have (and maybe spend the money on another position player).
We will probably have some competition in the Darvish sweepstakes. Some guys on It's About The Money (the ESPN Yankees affiliate) sound like they're keen on him too.
All I know is that I trust the Rangers organization to find the pitcher to replace CJ in the off season whether it is Edwin Jackson or Darvish or some other free agent.
The reality is that is that TRUST is what the Rangers have given us in the way they put a team on the field. That's HUGE because I know that this team will be, not just competitive, but a team that will challenge for the trophy every year.
I was not impressed with Jackson at all.
Maddux is likely to be hired away as a Manager during the off season.
When Jackson is on, he's very good. When he's off, it's pretty bad. In between, I'd say he's probably a No. 3 starter on most teams, which is not a bad thing. He could be a very affordable option and Maddux might be just what he needs to help him acheive some consistency. I still don't like pursuing Darvish. He's way too expensive to take a chance on with no MLB experience. Look at all the pitchers from the Far East that brought their talents here, there is ample evidence to suggest Darvish will be nothing more than a mediocre SP. Put that money into making a run at Sabathia. Or use it for extensions for current players that are part of the long term plan. Let CJ walk. Shields would be a good fit in Arlington, and I think he has a higher ceiling than CJ.
Maddux as a manager? Where are the potential openings? Am I missing something?
@Alan: well, there's Boston. They'll need a manager. But I'm not sure why mhilg thinks Maddux will go take a manager job...does he know something we don't? And I hope he doesn't go anywhere...he's done a lot for our pitchers!
I wouldn't be opposed to Shields here, but I'd rather see Kershaw. That's a long shot, though...I don't even know if he's on J.D.'s radar right now.
The only way I would be happy with Jackson being the replacement for CJ is if we land Prince Fielder or Pujols. Then our lineup would be so dominate that we could get away with Jackson/Holland/Lewis/Feldman/Harrison.
@Keystone Heavy - I'm not so sure that the rotation you have there would have much of a drop-off with Jackson instead of CJ, providing Jackson was somewhat consistent. But what about Ogando? Do you have him going back to the bullpen in favor of Feldman?
@Andy - Totally forgot about Boston having an opening. Surely Maddux wouldn't want that as his first gig. Maybe he'll follow in the footsteps of Dave Duncan and Leo Mazzone, and just remain a long-time pitching coach, preferably with the Rangers.
Oswalt will also be available. I'm not a huge fan of his, but he'd potentially be better money spent thatn some others.
Will Webb make another run at getting healthy in the spring?
Yeah - not sure where this Maddux will be a manager stuff is coming from.
He seems like more of a life-long pitch coach to me - as espoused by Alan.
He has already been a big-league pitching coach for 9 full seasons and he was obviously a pitcher for 15 years in the bigs. I am not real sure that he has any desire to manage anything other than a pitching staff.
Also, if he were a serious candidate for a managerial job, you’d think his name would have come up at least once or twice over the last few years as such…
Alan- Forgot about Ogando, sorry. Hopefully if he IS in the rotaion next year he can prove that 2010 was the real Ogando.
Oswalt will be best option if they don't sign CJ.
Is Oswalt really a $12m a year improvement over Matt Harrison or Ogando or Feldman? WOuldn't that money be better spent paying 2/3 of Prince Fielder's $18m/yr contract?
Between Lewis, Holland, Harrison, Ogando, Feldman, Feliz, Perez, and Ramirez I feel very confident that the team can piece together a rotation with 5 #3-quality starters in it. Hell, Lewis, Harrison, Holland, and Ogando all just had #3-quality seasons this year. And 6 of those 8 are under long-term team control, so long-term depth is not a major issue.
What is lacking is someone to front that group who represents a legit #1. If JD can get that guy (maybe Darvish?), he will. If not, I think he'll spend on positional players now and wait to pick up a #1 SP when one becomes available.
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