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Dont act surprised you knew it was coming. So today could be the last time we see CJ pitch in Rangers uniform. Now thos forum is not to get into HOW much its going to take to retain him and all that BS but two things. What's been your favorite CJ moment, and 2, what % chance do you give him to return. I for one would like to thank CJ. He was a hard worker and he took wash's "flip the ball" ass kicking to heart, manned the F up and became a real pitcher for that, CJ, thanks for 3 plus steller years making it do what it do as a set up man, semi closer, starter, and staff ace. Its been a hell of a ride. We hopee to see you in the red white and blue again..... next year... dont DO us lol.
My favorite moment for CJ was when I went to see him pitch last year against then-defending Cy Young winner Zak Greinke and the Royals, and he won on a complete game effort.
I give us a 35-40% of resigning him. I just want to go into next season with one of Darvish/Wilson/Sabathia/Shields. Two would be amazing!
My favorite CJ moment was his seven strong innings in game 5 and handing over a lead to the bullpen. [Recorded on January 28, 2012 and delivered via time machine.]
My % as re-signing CJ depends on the Yu Darvish sweepstakes.
Although not a "favorite moment" I think the ball flip incident was the important moment in his career developing into the starter her is now. My fave CJ moment was his triple he hit earlier this year. it was awesome and awkward all at once. But you could tell he enjoyed the hell out of it.
Call me the eternal optimist. Texas is home for CJ. i give it 80% chances he's back
dont really have a greatest moment of cj just glad to see him grow into the pitcher that he is now. I think we have about a 60% chance of keeping him. I believe we pay him what he is worth and stay away from all the darvish stuff. The guy has never pitched in the big leagues. He pitches in japan and plus there are to many of those guys that come over here and fail. look at Dice K he sucks. This team is just now getting over the whole arod thing we dont need to throw all this money at a guy unproven.
Favorite CJ moment: This one is easy. Game 2, ALDS 2010, when he shut down the Rays in Tampa and looked every bit the Cliff Lee starter kit.
Odds of retaining him: 25%. Probably 30% Red Sox, 20% Yankees, 25% The Field.
Favorite CJ moment, July 23, 2010 (my birthday) at the ballpark he shut down the Angels for 8 innings. Rangers won 1-0 on a Michael Young 1st inning homer to the opposing bullpen. Had great seats behind the Rangers dugout.
I think we all realize that the chances of us retaining CJ are probably a longer shot than last year's Cliff Lee sweepstakes. For one, he isn't the pitcher Cliff was, and our team isn't as desperate as it was last year. But, he is going to command big dollars and years because he is virtually the only big starting pitcher prize on the market and there are a few teams with big payrolls that happened to have terrible starting pitching in 2011.
I think the Rangers will make a decent offer, but CJ's time as a Ranger comes to a fruitful end tonight as he pitches a great game and sends us to St. Louis 1 win away from the promised land.
I did find this stat funny: C.J. is the only pitcher ever to lose the All-Star game, an ALDS game, an ALCS game, and a World Series game all in the same year. I still like him, but he is not a true "Ace". I hope to keep him, as well as get Darvish. That kid is good. I've seen him.
The big key to CJ's staying with the Rangers......is understanding what is his "buy criteria" ? Does management know /understand his criteria for making his decision ?
Last year Ranger management did NOT understand Cliff Lee 's "buy criteria". It was not jusy $ and contract length.
So tell me what his "BC" is and then I'll tell you what our chances are to retain his services.
PS..... 1) it is not just $. and 2) hope he continues his wonderful career with his Texas Rangers.
Cliff's Buy Criteria may not have only been years and dollars, but I believe the only ones the Rangers could control were years and dollars. The Rangers have no control over the fact that Philly has a better hospital for his daughter's pediatric cancer than Dallas does, nor do they control that he apparently enjoyed his Philly teammates more than his Ranger teammates, nor do they control that his wife likes living in Philly more than Dallas. They do control years and dollars, and it has been reported that if the Rangers were to have gone for a 7th guaranteed year at similar per anum money, Cliff would have written off all his other Buy Criteria and taken the money and years from Texas.
Who's not glad now, though, that we signed Beltre instead of Lee? Nobody, that's who.
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