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Given Feliz's struggles, I had hoped that Mike Adams would take the closer role away from him and be the closer in the playoffs. I suspect that in part, last night RW was giving him an opportunity, which, if successful, might have led to him splitting closer duties with Feliz over the next few weeks. Obviously, it didn't go well. A lot of people on this site seem to think it was a fluke and Adams is ready to close out important games. I think he looks uncomfortable in big games and I'm not convinced. But I know that "body language" can be deceiving and has a bad reputation on this site, perhaps for good reason.
So I wanted to ask the group: who do you think will be the closer for the playoff run? And who would you prefer? Are you satisfied with Feliz or do you think that RW should give Adams more opportunities in big games to prove himself during the stretch run?
Wrong, he was closing because Feliz was not considered to be available. Whether or not he should have been available is another issue, but Feliz is still the full-time closer and that wont be changing...
Perhaps. But it also provides nice cover to get Adams in there. RW isn't the type of manager who's going to undermine Feliz's confidence and create a "closer controversy" by choosing Adams over Feliz in a key situation where it's clear that Feliz was available. At any rate, I suspect that if Adams had gotten 3 quick outs in dramatic fashion, RW would've found ways to give him more opportunities to close over the next few weeks. The question now is that since Adams blew it, will he get more opportunities.
I just have very little confidence in Feliz at this point and would prefer Adams as the closer if he's ready. I'm just not sure he is.
Completely agree with Aggie E.
From my post on the "Are the Rangers better than the Red Sox and Yankees" thread (http://www.bbtia.com/forum/post/1562238), talking about Koji and Adams::
"I do caution....you can't expect these guys to just move in and re-create the fabulous numbers they have. Don't know why, really, but relievers frequently seem to struggle, especially if they move from NL to AL. I think Adams will be fine, but just as Cliff Lee put up mediocre numbers for the Rangers last regular season, I wouldn't be surprised if one or both of Adams / Uehara have a meltdown or two. It happens."
Just sayin'....I'm not that surprised that both Adams and Koji haven't exactly proven lights-out since coming over. I fully expected Adams to shut the door last night and, like you RFan, potentially open the door to "who should close" questions.
However, since Adams hasn't taken advantage of his limited opportunities, it seems Feliz is the man for now. I just hope Adams and Koji settle down and start performing as consistently as we hoped upon their arrival.
I'm curious, has anyone compared the bullpen before their arrival and after and determined how much it has improved (or not)?
Is it just me or was Lowe downright filthy last night. I'm tempted to say he should be getting some consideration for more 8th inning time.
The guy can pitch... and quite well. I think he got off on the wrong foot, thus not instilling Wash with a ton of confidence, but he has wn it back.
Mike Adams (Rangers)
8.1 innings, 10 hits, 3 ER, 2 HR, 7 SO, 3 BB, 3.24 ERA, 5.53 FIP, 3.71 xFIP, -0.1 WAR
Mike Adams (Padres) (per Joey's post on 7/31)
"In 2011, Adams has mowed down same-handed (right-handed) batters to the tune of .163/.191/.314, with 21 strikeouts against just three walks in 90 total plate appearances ... and against left-handed batters? Try .194/.235/.280 with an even more remarkable 31 strikeouts against just five walks in only 99 plate appearances.
And if you'd like to take it a few steps further, well, here you go: of the 267 pitchers who have logged at least 150 combined innings from Opening Day 2009 to present, Adams' ERA (1.31) and park- and league-adjusted ERA- (36) rank first, his fielding-independent ERA (2.07) and park- and league-adjusted FIP- (57) rank first and second, his batting average on balls in play (.224) ranks second ... and that's not even getting into his strikeout rate, which has sat consistently in the 9-10 K/9 range over the last four seasons, or his present sub-2.0 BB/9 rate this season, or the elite-level home run prevention that should still prove to be better than average even within the Arlington blast furnace. Adams isn't Mariano Rivera, but he isn't that far off."
Of course, you could argue, and some have, that the difference in his performance with the Rangers versus San Diego is due entirely to the SSS. It's a fluke and has nothing to do with the difference in pressure. There's really not much difference b/w being the 8th inning guy for the Padres and the closer for the Rangers (where you frequently pitch with 35,000+ on their feet, holding their breath with every pitch). So he's ready to go out there and close out the big games and be his usual dominant self. That might be the case, but I'm not convinced yet.
And my question is this: if all that is true, why shouldn't he be the closer right now? His numbers are clearly better than Feliz's. So if he's ready and pressure and psychology aren't an issue, then why not let him close now?
how is this even a debatable topic? Feliz is our closer. The end. Unless he gets hurt nobody else is an option. In my opinion though, Adams has struggle a bit since coming here, i'd take a look at Koji as closer before Adams (and it has nothing to do with last nights game, although it def didnt help) he's lost his command here. he needs to take some time and get it back. Mark Lowe was a beast last night and i think the only real valid arguement at all, was why they didnt just let Lowe finish it out. I understand you go with the fresher arm especially from a guy like Adams. But Lowe doesnt throw like that everyday. when a dude's throwing like that on a paticular day, and he doesnt normally bring that with him.... you use it til it runs dry. just my opinion. Either way Wash made the right choice and it just happened to be a bad pitch against the one guy thats killed us all year.
I think it's debatable because Feliz has struggled most of the year and Adams had great numbers in San Diego. If he could translate his performance there into the closer role in Texas, I see no reason he shouldn't be the closer.
Lowe was absolutely disgusting last night. He broke off a couple of sliders that made me literally laugh out loud. Incredibly fun to watch.
I believe Wash will honor his commitent to Feiz in the closer role, until it starts to glaringly affect the win column.
Last I checked runs count the same in the seventh and eighth as they so in the ninth. Don't think the inning in which a guy pitches makes his performance any more or less valuable. The key is run prevention and getting outs. It doesn't matter who pitches when they still have to get outs. If feliz hours in the eighth and gives up the less how is it any different than giving it up in ninth. And adams closing out the eighth is just as valuableas the ninth. In my mind these guys are interchangeable and need to do what they do without concern over whether its the first or the tenth inning. Do you guys agree that even after the last game against the angels a one run game late just feels so much more safe than you can remember in the past?
If there's no difference between pitching in the 8th and the 9th, then isn't the whole idea of a closer misguided. If there's no difference and a team has a lead and the middle of the order is up in the 8th for the other team, the team with the lead should just put in their best relief pitcher because he will face the other team's best hitters. Then in the 9th, put your second best relief pitcher in as he will be facing lesser hitters.
Doesn't the fact that most (all?) teams have a closer imply that there's something different about pitching the 8th than the 9th. I've been to a lot of baseball games and it's pretty rare that people are on their feet in the 8th. But I can't tell you how many Ranger games I've been to in the past few years where 35,000+ were on their feet in the 9th rocking the stadium from the moment Feliz walked out of the bullpen. You think player's don't notice the difference? It's all routine for them? They're inhuman? Tell that to LeBron James.
I completely agree with bubbav! Finally somebody else who gets the big picture!
And also agree with the first paragraph if r fans last post....couldn't have said out better
Feliz was on FIRE tonight!
Rfan, didn't think about it that way but your first paragraph is right on target! Can someone get wash on the horn. This is revolutionary stuff!
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