What is your opinion of the A.J. Pierzynski signing?
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The Gift that Keeps on Giving.
We were bummed when it had to happen.
We were cool with the deal when Elvis arrived and had a sparkling rookie year, earning AL ROY runner-up honors.
We loved it when Feliz arrived, earning AL ROY honors and joining Elvis at the All-Star game, helping the Rangers to an AL title.
We couldn't believe how badly we fleeced Atlanta when Matt Harrison turned the corner, becoming one of the AL's more reliable SPs.
And now this, per TR Sullivan: "Club officials are starting to consider who they should add as September callups and left-handed reliever Beau Jones is getting some consideration." Adding another lefty RP to the bullpen could be a nice little bonus coming down the stretch. Could Jones be the left-handed replacement for Oliver when his contract is up after this season? Could we have for Tex-Trade alums on the 2012 Opening Day roster?
And also this: Roman Mendez (the key return in the Salty trade) was given Rangers' Minor League Pitcher of the Month honors for July, going 3-0 with a 1.32 ERA in 6 starts.
This thing looks more and more like the Hershel Walker deal every month that passes by.
I think that was a great trade that i would not redo but, i dont think we can say it was a fleeceing because nefatli hasent showed he can be a ace pitcher he is still closeing. Matt harrison is a good #3 but he wont dominate anyone and he is having those low K rates like feldman did is his one good year. We all know what happened to feldman after that. Elvis andrus is great but not Tex great. And i doubt Beau Jones will make it in the majors. Atlanta did trade tex to the angels and get some talent back. So i would not call that a fleeceing but it was the begining of some great scouting.
Heck, if that's not a fleecing, I'd like to see that trade that is! No way ATL does this deal again.
Beau Jones has talent and can pitch. He'll be 25 this month (25th). I'd like to see his left arm up here in spot relief situations. Not a fleece? That trade was damn near crimnal!
Look it was a great trade but you cant call it a fleecing when you dident get anyone back in the deal who is a TORP or has as much impact as TEX. Look at ATL they are fighting the phils for a playoff spot and they dont need nefatli matt or beau jones so there is no reason to call it a fleecing. We won that trade but its not as great as people think...
You're splitting hairs on this one RAIN. It was a lopsided deal and the rangers clearly won. We got 2 all-stars and Harrison looks like a 3 ready to turn into a 2. Braves being good now has no bearing on the trade and we did "feliz" their minors.
someone obviously doesn't know what a good MLB trade actually is. how often is a TORP received or given up in a trade? RARELY, that's how often. a cliff lee or roy halladay isn't traded every at every deadline every summer, those moves are rare. the indians should consider themselves lucky to have even gotten ubaldo jimenez. the texiera to Atlanta trade got the rangers valuable pieces that contributed to the team reaching last year's world series. those same players and now matt harrison (maybe even beau jones) are major contributors to this year's division leading team as well. the only failed piece, salty, netted the rangers roman mendez. if you haven't heard of mendez then i suggest you take a look at his stats at single A. as far as atlanta is concerned, casey kotchman is having a fine year, with the Rays. this was more than a fleece, this is the trade that keeps on giving. do you think that the cowboys would have ever had the success they had in the early 90's without the herchel walker trade? because this trade is a tad bit below it if not on par with it.
We were going to lose Tex anyway if we didn't make that trade. St. Louis will be able to tell you all about it after they've lost Pujols.
Excellent point Tip. Very similar situation. It will be interesting to see what they do.
Pujols would look good as a DH in Ranger red.
The trade has the chance to be one of the best in baseball's modern era, especially since Tex was leaving anyway. Doubly bad for Atlanta since he left there almost as quickly as he arrived.
I agree. St. Louis could do something similar. But I think the have their heads buried in the sand, convinced Pujolz will resign and not test FA. I bet he'll test the market, and that number will be hard to match. They could get a plethora from a team in contention right now.
One of the greatest fleecings of all time. Even if Jones and Mendez never set foot in the big leagues. Feliz, Andrus, and Harrison make it a fleecing. The Braves got essentially nothing in return. Tex was not going to resign here just like he did not resign in Atlanta.
Jones wlll make it, and maybe soon. And Mendez is showing awesome potential.
When other teams mention wanting a Texeira-like haul when dealing at the deadline, you know we made out like bandits. We have 3 big time ML contributors from the deal and they are under team control for awhile. FLEECED
Tex was leaving anyway. You could either have Andrus, Feliz, Harrison, Jones, and Mendez... or nothing. I take the former.
Besides, I would take those three players over Tex and his 1st half season stuggles any day of the week.
Lets also not forget that only Harrison and Salty were considered to be even close to the majors. A lot of credit for this has to go to the scouts for finding players in the low minors with huge upside and being willing to take a gamble on them. At the time they were essentially offered the same package from the Angels that they gave to the Braves a year later and turned it down to go for greater upside that was farther away instead of immediate contributors with lower ceilings. Seems like they did the same thing in the Salty trade and that's looking more promising each day...
A $25-30M DH?
Maybe Pujols is having an off year (for his sake, I hope so) but, if you're relying on present performance, I'd take MY no question. He might be having the best year of his career here. I see no reason to shelve MY and pay twice what we're paying him in order to get Pujols, in hopes that he'll perform the way he did before this year.
Good point, Matches. Pujols in addition to the lineup we already have would be a nightmare for anyone unlucky enough to take the mound against us. But the cash that would be needed to sign him could be more wisely spent on pitching - or at least on a FA that can contribute defensively and offensively alike. If we pursue Pujols, we can forget about hanging on to CJ and any other potential offseason acquisition of significance. Pujols would sell jerseys just like A-Rod sold jersyeys, but JD and the front office are too competent to buy into a superstar like Hicks did.
All of this talk of Pujols and Fielder are pipe dreams. Moreland is our 1st baseman and will continue to be. It's okay to dream, but we are not going to pay over $20M a year, when we don't need a 1st baseman and are already getting producton from Moreland who will just keep geting better.
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