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Ok, so, at this point in the season, 3rd order win percentage has a stronger correlation to final win percentage than does current win percentage. Current win percentage for the Rangers is .562, Angels .543. Third order (basically derived from player performance stats and strength of schedule) is Rangers .595, Angels are at .528. In short, the Angels have played easier opponents and have not played as well. Seriously, watch an Angels game.In fact, here's a fun exercise for you. Watch Jeff Mathis' ABs, and then watch Torrealba's; or Hamilton and Hunter; or Cruz and Wells; or really any player over any player. Then develop a new appreciation for JD over Reagins.
We are fine. Without any major deadline changes, Rangers win this easy. With a major deadline roster move, Rangers win this even easier if that's even possible, and then have a better shot at playoff success.
LMAO at all the doom and gloomers.
On the one hand, the Rangers can play some bad baseball at times. From Holland not making it out of the 1st to blowing a 7-3 lead to last week's Holland / Tommy Hunter disaster against the Angels to regressing from one of the best defensive teams to one of the worst.
Yes, the Angels are a good organization and Sciosia one of the best managers I can recall. Yes, the bullpen is a white-knuckle affair where you often don't know what to expect. I predict the Rangers and Angels will go down to the wire and the games in Anaheim will probably make the difference.
But when I read comments like those from No.42
--the Rangers are about to lose their third in a row--they refuse to make an effort--after tonight's expected Minnesota ass kicking--after another surrender takes place tonight against the Twins--Rangers, who can't even summon the fortitude to make an effort against the 49-55 Twins--while the Rangers are losing at least two of three to the Blue Jays.--In just a few days, Texas will be in second place
In a single post you make seven negative predictions as statements of fact. If you truly believe all this, why bother watching? Why bother being a fan? Why bother reading or posting to this board? What pleasure can you possibly derive out of assuming the absolute worst about this team? What kind of mental issues results in this frame of mind?
And were do you get off saying the Rangers aren't making an effort? Please provide a single piece of evidence to support this outlandishly stupid comment.
I find your final statement to be the most ridiculous:
--It is indeed a frustrating time to be a Rangers fan.
Really? It's frustrating to be a fan of a team that:
1. Is defending AL Champ (for the first time in history)2. Is currently in first place in the division despite having a number of key players miss significant playing time3. Fields one of the most potent offenses in the game4. Combines power, speed and aggressiveness on the base-paths unlike any I've ever seen5. Has likable, solid citizen players and no nut-jobs, habitual offenders or simple miscreants
Seriously, if THIS team is frustrating you then just stop being a fan. You're not needed.
MrMan, there are different types of fans and people express their fandom in multiple ways. Those of us who are pessimistic fans are equally as passionate about the RAngers, want them to win, and are joyful when they do so, but we also need to vent our frustrations and get the "doom and gloom" out of our system. As most of you know, I'm a big time Thunder fan (partial season ticket owner), but when they blew those last two games against Dallas. I posted idiotic stuff like, "Durant has lost his superstar status tonight" or "I hope the Heat kill the Mavs," despite the fact that none of those statements were true. Some of us are just overreactionary when it comes to sports, and why you might not appreciate this expression of fandom, we have just as much right to express it as you do to correct it.
i guess some fans are frustrated by players like elvis andrus committing errors on routine ground balls that lead to unearned runs and losses. the rangers have one of the best infield formations and shouldn't be losing games like that. contrary to what many believe, a sense of urgency is important in professional sports.
Errors are not a good measure of defensive quality. MY doesn't get charged with many errors b/c he doesn't get to many balls; he has concrete in his shoes. Beltre's UZR/150 this year is 17.2; Young's last year was -5.8. Beltre is in a different stratosphere. Elvis is at 7.7 this year versus 0.3 last year. He does make some bonehead plays on balls hit at him, but he has great range. Kinsler is at 14.8 this year versus 4.1 last year.
Before the year started, I thought the Rangers should have gone after a reliever. It was one area where they did not have much depth and the possibility existed that either Feliz or Ogando was going to move to the rotation. Lowe was relatively unproven. It is not shocking that the bullpen is without Ogando. And yes, Rhodes had a pretty good year last year with the Reds, but he's over 40 so that was always a gamble.
I'm also not just reacting to the last few games. I think the Rangers will probably win the division, but with the lineup they have, I'd hoped they could make a serious run. Unless they pull off a major trade or two, I don't see that happening. And it's not true that the playoffs are simply a crap shoot. Anything can happen, but better teams have better odds of winning. The Phillies, Red Sox, and Yankees have better odds than the Rangers. Aside from the Beltre deal, the Rangers have not taken major steps to improving on last year's team, whereas other teams have taken giant steps forward.
That said, I hope I'm wrong and we go back to the World Series!
Under Scioscia, the Angels seem to consistently outperform their pythags.
I guess if you're willing to admit that some posts can be "idiotic" or "overreactionary" then I can't complain.
I'm new here...but my general approach to forums is to post serious statements for serious consideration. And I take that same approach to reading other posts.
I'm not a fan of heated, over-reactionary thought in general; it's one reason I don't list to talk radio much and sports radio in particular. I understand the need to sometimes vent and let the doom and gloom out. If you're willing to admit it doesn't always make the most sense I'm down with it.
I will, however, object if, for instance, No. 42 were to stand by his original post and claim it should be given serious consideration.
i think the rangers will fall to 2nd place within a week. the rangers' offense is superior, but the team suffers from erratic lineups, poor bullpen management, and inconsistent pitching. i basically go into each game hoping the opposing pitcher will be shitty.
12 runs today by that sorry Angels team, they are certainly hot right now and I feel very confident that the lead will be 1 game after tonight.
MrMan: OK, here's the deal.I am a fan, have been for many, many years and will continue to be as long as I love baseball. I've seen this team rise from the depths of Bob Short's idiocy, wallow in Brad Corbet's disastrous ownership, suffer through Eddie Chiles' buffoonery to survive where they are today, which is one of the top franchises in baseball.Which is why I refer to them as FRUSTRATING! All the positive things you pointed out are true, yet they still refuse to make a winning effort against teams they are supposed to beat -- handily. Tell me, honestly, they don't have a better talent base than Minnesota, yet they haven't found a way to compete with them (losers of six of the last eight meetings) or Toronto, or the Mets, or the Astros, or any number of teams that they've been embarrassed by this season.The Rangers are frustrating because when they play as they are capable, they are a joy to watch. When they flail away at pitches, as they did last night and on countless other occasions this season, when they won't field the ball like they are capable, when they don't pitch like their are capable --- yes, they are frustrating.I don't believe pointing out things that have happened and are likely to happen should be termed "idiotic'' or "reactionary.''The Rangers are frustrating when they don't play up to their capabilities and talent level. This doesn't change simply because you want to view the game through rose-colored glasses.I do stand by my original post or I wouldn't have written it. There's nothing in there that isn't true or won't happen. If they continue to play horrible baseball, then yes, the Minnesotas and Torontos of the world will continue to kick their ass.And don't look now, but that two-game lead they had yesterday is one and a half because the Angels won again today. It will probably be just one game after tonight.
Why do people criticize the team now as if it's going to be the exact same team that's going to play until the end of the season? You know we're going to make improvements to address the deficiencies at the deadline, so why bitch about how bad the team is now? That's like criticizing the car you have right now when you're about to buy a new one. What's the point? You know things are going to change. Just bizarre.
Minnesota has a bad record because of injury. They are getting healthy and have one of the best records in the game over the last 50 games. No shame in a 4-game split with them.
The Angels are red-hot, no doubt. But they have played a much softer schedule thus far in the year than the Rangers, and have a much tougher road to the finish line as a consequence. They will also cool off. If they play way over their talent level for 162 games, tip your hat to them and re-rack em for 2012. You can't win them all.
The Rangers are the better team, have the better record, have played a tougher schedule, have an easier schedule the rest of the way, and have more trade chips and cash at the deadline.
Also, the Rangers have missed how many games from Hamilton, Cruz, Beltre, and Feliz thus far? The Angels have also lost a bunch from Morales, but he's not expected back this season, while the Rangers are looking pretty healthy down the stretch.
On top of that, we all know there's better than we've seen in this Ranger club, and we will likely see it down the stretch this season.
Let's say the Angels take first place for a few days next week. The Rangers are still an overwhelming favorite to finish them off later on this summer. This is unlikely to be that close in September.
And didnt everyone say all of the same things last year! The angels Do not have all star pitching. Weaver is the only guy. If i recall we scored 5 on haren in LA. Santana has been up and down all year. We well be ok. Does everyone forget we lost are bat vs left handers in beltre. When we had him in the lineup everyone was thinking this division was all the rangers. Once beltre is back are lineup will be able to handle left handed pitching. Thats the problem. We dont hit leftys. We are 17 and 15 vs leftys.
PS: please chris davis stop blowing your chance. Please nomore errors If wash gives u another shot at 3rd base.
Hoping you locate the power of positivity, love your life, enjoy the good times which are certainly overdue.Rangers fandom has arguably never been so sweet.
"the 2011 Rangers are very similar to the 2010 Rangers, minus Cliff Lee"
Beltre >> Vlad
I agree that Beltre is better than Vlad. He and Napoli are the reasons that I said the offense and defense are better this year. But I don't think there so much better as to cancel out the loss of Cliff Lee. Hardly. Lee was awesome in the playoffs last year.
"But I don't think there so much better as to cancel out the loss of Cliff Lee."
What if we wake up tomorrow morning and find that J.D. has, let's say, suckered the Dodgers into trading Kershaw for a bucket of baseballs and a piece of equipment to be named later? Would you then think we're a better team this year?
except in the WS :(
@Skeletor: Granted, he wasn't as dominating as he'd been against NY, but in all fairness, neither was the rest of our staff. The Giants pulled some crazy offense out of their asses, probably better than they'd had all year, and better than they've had all this year as well. I don't know where it came from, but I hope they make it to the WS again this year...and that we're there to beat them this time.
No. 42. Here's what you wrote in your latest post:
"I do stand by my original post or I wouldn't have written it. There's nothing in there that isn't true or won't happen."
Here are your statements from Thursday's post, before last night's game won 4-1by the Rangers in an impressive all-around performance:
"the Rangers are about to lose their third in a row to the Twins""Instead, after tonight's expected Minnesota ass kicking, it will be the Twins who will have won three of four.""Instead of Texas owning a 6-8 game lead in the West, it has shrunk to just two and probably just one after another surrender takes place tonight against the Twins."
So, on three different occasions you stated EMPHATICALLY the Rangers would lose and look poor doing it last night.
Then you predict crappy, losing performances in the next two series. Based on your prognostication skills from yesterday you'll forgive me if I don't put much weight in those predictions.
Look, I understand the frustration. What I don't understand is an unrelenting, completely negative attitude where you concentrate 100% on what the team doesn't do well without any appreciation for what it does do well.
Look, you may be right. They might go on the road and get whipped. It happens to all team. The best team in the league will lose 36-38% of its games this year, including many to inferior teams. That's part of baseball and if it bothers you that much you're in for inevitable frustration.
But it's also possible the Rangers go out and win 5 of 7......which will make your statements look pretty silly. Let me ask....last year were you predicting an inevitable collapse when the Rangers lost 6 of 8 in mid-August including a sweep by the Rays and losing two of 3 to Baltimore?
Throw Kershaw onto the current team and you're talking about a real contender. I haven't seen anything in the news that suggests that's going to happen.
The 2011 team is a fun team to watch when they're hot, just as the 2010 team was. I love watching offense. If I were a Phillies fan and had to sit through 2-1 games all the time, I'd probably go crazy. (I watched one of their games a few weeks ago, and the crowd was so silent, it was just boring.) That said, great pitching beats great offense and offenses can be fickle. To make a serious run against teams like the Yankees, Red Sox, and Phillies, the Rangers need to add a TORP. We knew that the moment they lost Cliff Lee. There's no point remaining in denial about it.
That said, if JD adds Heath Bell, the Rangers will likely win the division and anybody can win a 5 game division series. So it'll be fun to watch. I just have to get over the disappointment of wondering what might've been.
MrMan: I appreciate your sentiments, however ...I have, many times in this forum, acknowledged the things this team has done well and as a matter of fact, I said that very thing in my previous post.Yet the fact remains this team -- as the players and management have stated over and over and over and over this season -- is capable of playing better. What I've said is nothing that Ron Washington hasn't said on many nights.My prognostication skills aside, its also a fact that this team doesn't play well, for whatever reason, in Toronto and Detroit. That's not my opinion, that's a fact.When the Rangers play well and lose, that's just the way baseball go, as Wash says. And I recognize that. This very thing happened recently in Anaheim when Jared Weaver outpitched C.J. Wilson.But when the Rangers play poorly and lose -- especially to a team they are better than -- that's frustrating.Talent-wise, this team should be able to beat the Minnesotas, Torontos and Detroits on a regular basis. And finally, last August I didn't predict an inevitable collapse because I understood that with an 8 game lead at the beginning of the month and no one playing the way the Angels are playing at the moment, Texas was basically secure. They finished the month with a 14-15 record and actually added a half-game to their lead.Obviously, there's not as much room for error (so to speak) this year.And finally, and this will be my final response to you MrMan, I believe that players who are paid for a living by the fans have a responsibility to put forth an effort worthy of their paychecks. That's why I am critical when they don't put forth such an effort.
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