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Ditto. Good stuff, Hubz! The good news is, that Caleb is a smart guy, and does in fact have facts and opinions of his own. That's what I did not want to get lost in the context of the game and/or our discussions.
I understand and appreciate exactly what you are saying with regard to enjoyment of the game sans stats. I love the underdog aspect of all sports as well (I am a huge NCAA b-ball tourney fan for that very reason).
For me there are two completely separate aspects of sports that I appreciate and enjoy:
1) The fan part - this is the part you are referring to - the part where you get to jump around in your living room like a little kid when some punk kid named Neftali Feliz strikes out the mighty A-Rod looking in the 9th inning of game 6 of the ALCS. I love this part of the game and always will.
2) Then there is the business aspect of sports - this aspect of sports intrigues me greatly as well (the MBA in me comes out) and this is the aspect that allows for the usefulness of analytics/metrics/geek crap, in my opinion.
@Caleb/RickYep, I get all of the 2nd part of it too, from an Aerospace/Military angle. That's Geekdom also.I never liked all the answers given me throughout school. Nobody speaks up about bones and remnants of ancient man, going back several million years either. Ooops, another topic.Have you ever read "The Art of War"- Sun Tzu? Good Baseball stuff, if you're a Geek, as me.Homey, you're mellowing with approach. You wisdom still shines thru, without the angst, Bro- AMEN
I see Josh looking different all the time. Sometimes when he comes to bat, I see fire in his eyes, and I almost get scared at how fast and hard he swings. Other times it looks like he's just going through the motions, and he often hacks those little pop-ups to shallow OF. I love the guy, but sometimes I wonder just what's up with him...
Thanks, HubZ. That means alot coming from you... seriously. - RP
Keep up the great stuff guys!
Andy - I'd never question Josh's drive and intensity. People use to accuse Juando of loafing, but that is just what it looked like when he ran, yet he was going all out and moving! You may be seeing Josh guessing off-speed and the swing looks flailed, but that guy goes 110% always. I'd prefer not to run full speed @ 240#, jump, and slam into a wall blind folded. He will do that any day of the week for us. But that's just me.
"Young is a great human being, a great teammate and a pretty damn good baseball player"
He's a great human being? By what measure? Great teammate? "Trade Me" doesnt scream great team mate to me...and it always seems he is the one guy too cool for the claw and antler bit that the rest of the team does.
But he is a damn good hitter, and consistently good. Jeter is a HOFer, MY is not one yet. But he has been so consistent for so long that if he keeps putting up hits and high average seasons, he might force himself in.
To me the HOF is for the best players of their generation and MY is not that. But there are places in the hall for guys who were really good for a really long time and I can see Mikey being one of those guys when it's all said and done.
@Ricky in Fort Worth: You might be right. I hope you are. We all know what he's capable of...if there's a batter out there that's capable of hitting it out of the park the way Mickey Mantle did, it's Josh.
@Adam: MY has almost 2000 hits right now, and a .302 average. I know he's getting older, but he's still on pace to have 3000 hits if he plays til he's 40. If he keeps it up, I can't imagine 3000 hits and .300 BA wouldn't make for a HOF candidate (yes, that's a pretty big if, but definitely still possible). Everyone that's had 3000 hits has been inducted into the HOF already except Biggio (not eligible yet), Palmeiro (only 1 ballot so far), and Rose (who'll probably never get in), and some of them don't have .300 lifetime averages.
Andy, I agree. My point is that he might very well end up with HOF numbers due to incredible consistency and longevity. I still won't consider him one of the best players of his generation though. He's very good but he's not a superstar.
Then I think the next and most important question is.... if at all, who is the next Rangers HOFer? And if theres not one you deem eligible past or i guess basically MY is the only one with enough tenure and a record to be considered right now, then who presently has the potential? anyone?
I dont know if JuanGone has the numbers and there will alwasy be the PED question similar to palmeiro, and conseco, basically any of the big hitters of that time. Arod in my eyes wouldnt be considered a Ranger (didnt play long enough) Greer doesnt have the numbers. The ONLY sure candidate is Pudge right? What about Kenny Rogers, does he have the numbers? surely his tenure with the Rangers would put him in if eligble as a Ranger and not a Tiger or any of the other teams he played for... Otherwise its just hoping MY can Bernie Mac it. (Mr. 3000, lame joke)
I guess the comments regarding MY as a person/teammate were grounded more in the 9 or so years that he behaved in a fashion consistent with praise for those aspects of his person, rather than the 2 or 3 month (potentially media induced) PR melt-down that MY underwent earlier this year.
Yes, I have read the Art of War and I feel it provides an excellent metaphorical outlook for any competitive team-oriented environment - including baseball and business.
Have you read much of the research/publications regarding game theory? It's utility in business/baseball, etc is similar in nature to the Art of War, IMO.
Both you guys (Caleb and HubZ) are clearly educated. And the three of us have similar views and interest, albeit a strange dichotomy background wise between the trio. That said, I'd like to hear your thoughts of what you foresee the issues being in the CBA come November, i.e. re-alingment, the "ripple effect" of such, (league, division, and play-off implications, DH implications) etc.
My take on the whole "realignment" issue (divisions/leagues/playoffs, etc.) is that there will be too much grid-lock for anything meaningful to occur in November.
In all of these types of situations (CBA, realignment, etc - whether college or pro) all you really have to do is follow the trail of money. For instance, in MLB the majority of teams (the Rangers included) have basically deployed a business strategy that is predicated upon the current divisional system.
Other than the money monsters (Yanks, Red Sox, Phils, maybe Cubs, etc.) pretty much all MLB teams have some sort of business strategy/philosophy that looks something like this:
* Deploy capital as efficiently as possible in order to maximize return on investment, relative to the competition
The most critical component of this model is the competitive environment (i.e. the divisions). So basically, most MLB owners (the money) have deployed their capital in an environment where divisions exist and they are effectively fighting against 2 or 3 or 4 other teams for a spot in the postseason (a definite revenue maximizing achievement).
History tells us that you can't go messing around with the rules of the game when billionaires are the ones playing it, they don't like that very much and typically will pack up their toys and go home. And outside of the owners of the Jays, Orioles and probably Rays, all of the other owners (money) kind of like the way the game is set-up now with the divisions. The Red Sox, Phils and Yanks probably don't give a crap either way.
The bottom line I think is that if anything happens, it will be relatively minor - maybe one team moves to a new division or league, or something along those lines. But even that will be tough, becasue for instance the Rangers sure as hell do not want an additional team in their division as that disrupts the whole model, etc...
Caleb... Here is what I believe we should do on this topic... I know HubZ... and the fact that he has yet to respond, means he is writing a Novel on the whole scenario. I think we should create a new Forum on this topic. Our trio has business, baseball, and common sense.
I haven't cluttered my mind yet, with a new realignment of MLB.I suspect it won't happen, before the start of the 2012 season,unless it's a small shove... Houston into the AL West Division- sigh.
Baseball is watered down. Whatever MLB does, it won't be forthe benefit of the Fans. Of course, TV will have their sticky fingers,as a major focus, in any scenario. Travel Fuel won't get cheaper.That's as far as my brain train travels, for now.
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