What is your opinion of the A.J. Pierzynski signing?
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Just read from Buster Olney that the Dodgers are willing to field calls on Kershaw, Kemp and Ethier, among others. I'm really curious to know what it would take to land him...
Him being Kershaw.
Thanks, Mark not being one of these trolls who posts random trade rumors... Now i can see something happening here in a couple of weeks with one of those 3 you mentioned
That's Marktown that started the thread, sorry ,just accidentally put my real name in there haha.
Haha, its cool man. I just read over on espn mlb rumor page that jair jurrgens might be on the block?? Wow
i heard the dodgers are willing to trade us Kershaw, Kemp, Ether, and prospects for Nolan Ryan as an owner.
would love me some jurrgens, but that acquisition would actually make me miss Rhads doing PbP. hearing him try to get through his name every at bat.... pure entertainment
Kershaw would cost the farm. And may be worth it. I can't fathom why Atlanta would want to deal their best pitcher.
Clueless in Texas? Some of you are. Garza is a likely candidate, with Davis, Perez, and Scheppers going in return. League realignment, will mean the end of the DH in time, as I stated. Houston will be in the AL West next year, meaning constant IL play. Hate to see Perez and Davis go. Scheppers? Get a stretcher.
Kershaw is the kind of arm that I would trade the entire farm for. It probably won't happen, but imagine having a rotation led by a budding ace through 2012 and possibly beyond. The guy is from the Dallas metroplex...
As I said... clueless. You never trade "the entire farm" for a pitcher... not even a big part of it. Geez, it's like I am playing cards with my brother's kids!
I'm having a hard time imagining why the dodgers would trade Kershaw at this point. He is their best pitcher and if I understand correctly, he is currently making league minimum and under club control until 2014.
I would really like to see this trade happen though because my wife is loosely related to Kershaw, so I could actually interest her in watching the rangers once every 5 days :)
right now as long as mccourt still has control of the team... NEVER underestimate what a pissed off owner losing a team will do. look at how hicks tried to perpetually screw the rangers and then he pulled that parking lot BS. i'll so some research and get back w you. a while back an owner of a basketball team was semi forced out ala mccourt. hocked all his good players for nothing, they played w crap from then on. i wanna say it was the Clippers.....
but anyways. i could see mccourt just giving players away to almost ensure theyre set back 10-20 yrs. hes a SOB like that. so if i was any owner dealing w them. i'd start low. borderline stupid low.
how would people feel about perez, ramirez, profar, olt, borbon, davis, holland and harrison for kershaw? i know there are many reasons the dodgers wouldn't be looking to move kershaw, as stated above by rangersbu, but it'd be hard for any gm to not listen to this. you could restock a system w/ 4 legitimate prospects (perez, ramirez, profar, and olt) with two of those being very very good prospects (perez and profar) and the other two very good prospects (ramirez and olt) and you get two mlb starting pitchers who might turn into something better than back of rotation guys (holland and harrison) and you get two guys who have played in mlb before and shown flashes of success, and though most people view them as washouts for the rangers, they're still young and shown promise and they could possibly turn into quality starters in the mlb. that would be a whole lot for the rangers to give up, but if you got a true ace like kershaw back that still has many years of team control, it might be worth it because none of those guys play a huge role in the rangers immediate plans for world domination, other than holland and harrison who are 2/5 of the starting rotation, but you'd get kershaw back so he would take one of those spots, and then you hope either hunter or feldman can get healthy and stay healthy and be a good enough #5 to help make the playoffs, and when playoffs start you roll out there with kershaw, wilson, ogando, and lewis rather than wilson, ogando, lewis, and holland/harrison. it'd hurt to see those prospects go, but most people already assume his biggest contribution will come via trade b/c of beltre's contract, profar might turn into an all-star ss but we have andrus and profar is many years away; and perez and ramirez might very well be as good as advertised but they probably will not contribute significantly to a pennant chase in the immediate future, so you'd be mortgaging the somewhate distant future (after probably 2013 when those guys would be ready to contribute meaningfully) for a very good chance at winning a lot in the immediate future (this year and a few years after). you could also still keep scheppers and hope he fills the void in the bp as our pitching depth would be decimated. if cj walks in the offseason, we won't have a possible ramirez or perez to take his spot, and we'd have kershaw, ogando, lewis (who i think might be a free agent also but i assume we can bring him back) and then possibly two very average - to maybe below average - back end guys (or you could move feliz to the rotation - who could possibly be just as average). i'm not necessarily saying we do this, i'm typically again selling the farm, but wanted to see what people thought. let a rip
GD! Ricky lost another million dollar deal and he's pissed! lol.
this realignment as far as IL blah blah could help with one super major important thing. CJ. he absolutely loves to hit. if the dodgers werent in such a clusterF*** thats the team i coulda saw him going to. hell watch him go to the phillies now that oswalt is questioning retirement. anyways my point is some pitchers like to hit. if CJ has a chance for a few more at bats.... just one more very little thing to give me hope.
i gotta give you cred for some massive cajones johnny but thats just too much. just way too much. Kershaw is young and good but he's not roy halladay. thats just a lot to give up for one player. now maybe Kershaw and Kemp.... and we're talking. just not basically our entire farm for one player
Kershaw would cost Perez, Holland, Scheppers and either Davis or Profar, plus maybe another lower tier guy. Or at least that's my guess.
I still think "receiving calls on a ____" is a far cry from "actively shopping ____" - and so this rumor sounds like mostly bunk.
Clayton Kershaw is one of 4 players in the bigs that i would actually trade a combination of Perez, Profar, Scheppers, Engel Beltre, and Ramirez for. The other 3....King Felix, Verlander, and little Stevie Strasburg. If we trade the top talent from our farm system, then we need to get young major league talent in return. Under no circumstances would I trade any of these prospects for just bullpen help.
I feel like when trades for big name players actually do occur, it's always for a lot less than when fans speculate. May be why most fans don't become GMs or owners! That's crazy Johnny - way, way, way too much for an arm that will only throw every 5th game. Look at the Cliff Lee trade - it cost us nowhere near what Johnny proposes for Kershaw. In Smoak we lost a .250 hitter with 20-30 HRs and 5-10 errors a year, a 17th round pitcher who has given up 12 runs in 6 IP this year, and a 1st rounder who may or may not turn out to be good at the major league level. And on top of Lee, we also got a pitcher who after some fine tuning in AAA this year has given us some pretty good innings in the last several weeks and may be turning a corner. I wasn't around here before the trade deadline last year, but I would not have been surprised if some folks were suggesting giving up the entire farm, the entire big league team and cash in return for Lee. Crazy.
I wasn't proposing they do this, I was thinking of "an offer they can't refuse" that would still theoretically leave the rangers in a place to complete. If they did this, which they wouldn't, i'd be shocked/pissed, but I'm just saying if there were some player(s) the rangers thought would make them favorites this year and for the next 2-3 years, they could make a move(s) that would greatly deplete their system, but it's not like we're really counting on these guys to be big pieces in a pennant chase before 2013, so we could go all in for a ring and hope we have some prospects in the lower levels that could be almost ready to contribute by 2013-14 or so...
Realignment isn't happening any time soon. Astros won't be anywhere different next year. Next time you call someone clueless you should probably be looking in the mirror.
You are! CBA is this year, genuis. What a flap!
It'll be 15/15 and DH going away. Nolan endorses this. apparently not baseball midgets like you.
I don't argue with 12 yr olds. Go get your diaper changed with your realignment next year nonsense and I'll stay over here in the real world.
I really don't know whether to start purging posts or lock this thread or delete it or what, but it's getting on my last nerve. Cut out the personal shots.
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