Speaking of crap, Doug Davis and Ryan Franklin to replace Dave Bush and Arthur Rhodes. Both were released today. Is that an upgrade?

I should clarify - Davis & Franklin released today - would they be much of an upgrade over Bush and Rhodes if they were brought in and those 2 guys released? Do tell...

No ... that's why they were released.

interesting.....basically like a free player. Bush to me is Jamie Moyer 2.0 minus the location and velocity (yeah how sad is that) so he's essentially good for one or two outs. f*** long relief. losing 14-BS is not on my division agenda. regardless once feldman or hunter come back he's basically out. Doug Davis used to be good. question is, is he really done, or a change of scenery guy.... might be worth a shot. I dont know alot about Franklin. seems young, possibly serviceable in AAA for a while til roster expansion. However i dunno how we would fill them in the roster unless we flat out cut Bush for one of them. Rhodes unfortunately i have to say is still serviceable as a left handed specialist ONLY!!!!!! for the love of god Wash, Mike listen!

but yeah... right now w the state of our BP, any help is good. we just would have to find room for them.

Doug Davis is probably finished, but I would be interested in Ryan Franklin, if only because he has been good in the past and he's not that old - and he would accept a setup role I think.

But you have to wonder if there's not something wrong with him, and if not, whether Texas could figure out what's going on.

I'd rather them at least try a guy like Franklin before they sell the farm to get Bell.

i'm probably in the minority, but god i dont want bell. great clubhouse guy. but i just do not see him adjusting well going from THE closer to just and 8th inning set up role. Right now i'm hoping we get the Clippard trade done, and soon before the nats come to their senses. However Clippards contract is just not the way Nats baseball go. you have to be way over paid, possibly past your prime or just out right one of the most ridiculous contracts in history ie Pudge, Werth, Hernandez, god knows whatelse theyve done.

atleast for one thing you can say their trying. the dodgers havent even attempted to sign anyone in ages and they use to be the class of the west

@Dcaggie06:Bell's a proven closer. Feliz has looked great sometimes, and sometimes like a mess. Perhaps, if we traded for Bell, we move Feliz to setup/secondary closer?

In that situation i'd feel more comfortable taking bell. especially w the goal of next year moving feliz to the rotation. However from what i understand Feliz is the closer and whether we were to trade for bell, or hanarhan, or krod or probably even mariano... theyre still gonna stick w feliz as closer. so why spend closer money and prospects when you can get tyler clippard or someone who is already a set up man when mgmt refuses to move feliz.... get me?

Mariano?

he's not available or anything. i was just using him as an example. right now if we acquired mariano rivera... he'd be pitching the 8th. is it smart? is it logical? hell no. but we've already seen some of the frailty/immaturity of feliz this year and i believe they want him to feel like he has a defined role as the closer. regardless of the struggles. plant a seed of negativty in a kid this young you dont only risk ruining him as a closer, but also as a future starter if that is the intention.

in this instance if they were to bring in another closer i think mgmt is handling this right. place said player in the 8th and let feliz close unless he truly falters. hency why i'm opposed to trading for bell. unless youre looking towards the future.... then i'm ok w a traditional closer being set up this year, and closer next once feliz moves to the rotation.