Alright, so i know how great Ron Washington has been for the Rangers during his time here. He screwed up with the his cocaine addiction in 2009 and the F.O. gave him a second chance. He has done an absolute good job during injuries and when the club has a bad stretch of games. However, I believe it is time for a change. This is not out of anger from last night's game. I have always felt this way about Wash. He is a players-first manager, and I know some of you know know where I'm coming from, while others are going to bash me. I just think with our young guns coming up in the next few years we need a new leader. The rangers future looks really bright for the next 10 years, and I think in order to ultimately win a championship, the rangers need a different manager. This has absolutely nothing to do with race. I question Wash sometimes and the moves he makes during games. He has been a selfless manager through the years, but he can be a moron sometimes, especially with the questionable moves and the safety of our players... What are yall's thoughts? Like Dcaggie wanted to shake things up with the movie thread, I wanted to with this one as well; instead of talking about the players and trade deadline.

Thanks for ya'll hearing me out, and I didn't mean for a change in the middle of the season. I meant at the end of this season, and the possibilities that can happen if we make or miss the playoffs

He's here at least until after 2012, barring some sort of meltdown. Wash being a player's manager is best for the young guys, IMO.

I totally disagree with you, but surely you don't mean that Wash ought to be fired right now half way through the season?

If you think he ought to be let go now this post of yours is all the more strange and dead wrong.

Are you living on a cloud or something? Teams that fire managers half way through the season are 20 games below .500 and not coming off a World Series run.

I believe in Harvey Dent... i mean Ron Washington

I agree with Joey. The team is 4-5 pieces away from being a juggernaut, and some of their guys are really, really green still. Wash has done a good job overall since taking over, and you don't just dump a guy who is successful like that, as they are hard to find.

Let me pile on with Joey is right, so is Adam. Team chemistry is so important in long seasons just ask the Mav's. While Wash may not be Rick with the x's and o's I damn sure don't want to through out the only manager to ever get a win in the post season only one season removed from that accomplishment.
Does he drive me nuts yeah but do I have enough information to know whats going on for sure, no I don't.

Ron Washington is the guy who came in here preaching pitching, fundamentals, and defense. If you really want him gone...just reflect back to the early half of the 2000's, before he got here. We consistently lost 9-6, 12-8, etc. ballgames. The team has a chance to win most nights now due to the aggressive baserunning, overall sound defense (most of the time), and organizational philosophy. Baseball season is long, with ups and downs. Those who wish for a managerial change are idiots in my opinion.

Managers are usually fired, 1) they can't rally their players to perform to Club Standards.
Wash is 180 degrees from that ever happening. That's his strength. His patience and faith
are beyond my own. He put Young at 3B and Blanco at SS... he expected them to play well.
Over all, they did. Blanco had a bad throw on a great play. Michael fielded flawlessly, though
the line should have been tucked closer late inning. It was a perfect shot. He'd have to be
standing on the line to get it. There's no question here: Wash IS the Man for this Ranger "TEAM".

Wow, silly topic, IMO. We all can find faults in Wash's in game strategy (or lack thereof), but this team is winning. Even if you could bring in the best x's and o's manager alive (no idea who this would be?), you risk losing the team chemistry (see: Thad Bosley?) The players obviously love Wash because he is one of them; they stand behind each other and this is invaluable (see: Bob Geren). This thing would have to come all the way off the tracks for a change to be needed.

sorry for the excessive parentheses...

Fans call Wash "idiot" and "moron" and openly claim that they could do a better job than he could, or that despite his phenomenal success, call for his head in June when the team is in 1st place - but that's not about race.

Right.

RW isn't responsible for what he can't control. We're not playing up to last year's level primarily because the bullpen is a mess, and the main reason for the bullpen being a mess is injuries and RW has no control over that. If Hunter/Feldman/Hurley were healthy, Ogando would be setting up Feliz and serving as the backup closer, Oliver's workload wouldn't be so huge, Rhodes would be limited to facing one lefty hitter per outing etc. and ultimately maybe 10-11 of the 14 bullpen losses would be wins and we'd be way above .500. After all, if we knew Hunter/Feldman/Hurley were going to get injured, we wouldn't have traded away Francisco for Napoli, right? RW has done a great job and the team is still one of the better ones in the AL even while playing without some major contributors.

I should say "if Hunter/Feldman/Hurley were healthy TO START THE SEASON, Ogando would have been setting up Feliz FROM THE START OF THE SEASON..." with the consequence the bullpen would have been great to start the season.

Put me down in the pro-Wash line, which is a place -- I freely admit -- I wouldn't have been a couple of years ago.
Wash is a player's manager, to be sure, but he's also a very bright baseball man. My favorite Wash-ism is "you have to do what the game asks you to do.'' In other words, if the game asks you to hit and run, that's what we'll do. If a long ball is needed, we'll try to do that, etc.
He subscribes to many of my favorite things about baseball. He'll squeeze, double steal and play small ball until the other team is chasing itself all over the field.
Now let's take a look at the team's shortcomings: bullpen injuries which caused depleted its depth and a lack of timely hitting.
As others have posted, he can't be held responsible for the bullpen injuries.
And to the lack of timely hitting, he should bear some of the responsibility if he pushed to have Thad Bosley hired. But there again, he can't hit or field for those guys. All he can do is try and put the best lineup on the field for that day's particular game.
Bottom line: If Wash was fired today, who could be hired to insure the team would win a World Series?

I cant remember who said it, but it was good words of wisdom "Coaches are hired, to get fired". thats just how it goes. how long it last till then its up to them. one thing i always find ironic, is there is no other position in this world in which you can be FIRED, and the next day have 20 ppl calling you up offering you a job.

if my ass got fired today.... i might actually appreciate the o-bomb even more, i'd be on unemployment, medicaid, maybe getting some free school if thats true. But nobody'd be calling my ass. i'd be online 12 hours a day submitting 4500 applications. Crying when i get 4495 emails saying we have filled the position with a better candidadte and would crash and burn at the 5 interviews i get cuz i give a god awful 1st impression.

so yeah.... coaching.... thats where its at lol

granted....you can say one thing about coaching..... i think its the only job thats stress level might match the presidents. Look at obama the day he won the election and now... its been 2,3 years.... he looks like its been 10. look at Rick Carslisle the day he got hired and now..... he's aged about 10 years as well. no thank you!

The perpetrator has not returned to the scene so I guess that means he is hiding in a dark corner somewhere. Sorry man, we all f up with dumb ideas sometimes.

DCa~
I'm doing just what you mentioned... lost my job in January. Money slim,
but taking no hand outs from the Gov. I'm going deaf, which makes it even
harder to solicit employment. Nothing like a Top Sales Performer, that loses
the one strength he's manifested... the "art of listening"~ it comes and goes.
I fear being a broke street person, pushing a Walmart Cart around.
Life can be very humbling.

@Joe

he doesnt typically post til later. probably has a strict work or cares about his job or something. i use this to help curb my ADHD. little work here, little bbtia there and vice versa.

No. I wanted to get an answer in. It looks like all of my points have been made for me already. Makes this post very easy.

Wash has strengths and weaknesses. I wish someone in the FO would take bullpen management away from him. He's as bad as any manager I've ever seen at that. But he makes up for it in other ways. Still, if I was in JD's shoes, I'd be looking to upgrade in an offseason or two.

Umm, no. next question.

Do you still want Wash fired, Garrett?

R100, I'm good now man lol

OK. Just checking. :-)