What is your opinion of the A.J. Pierzynski signing?
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With Borbon stinking it up and Murphy is clearly not an option in CF, who do we look to for the answer? Grady Sizemore is injury prone but is in his prime (age: 28 till August) and only cost 8.5 mil this year (team option for the same in 2012). If not Sizemore, than who? How much you think we would have to give up for him?
to get sizemore it would take something like perez, profar, and engle beltre. we would also prolly have to give up something like tommy hunter or kirkman. not worth it to make a move for him
I highly doubt it would cost anything near that much to get Sizemore. He hasn't had a good year since 2008.
Personally, I think that Upton is a more realistic option. Depending on how TB fares over the next month, he may be available to clear room for Jennings.
If so, I think that he would make a lot of sense (although, I'm not a big fan of trading prospects for unnecessary position players).
I would rather role with Borbon/Murphy/Hamilton and try to get a TORP at the deadline. You can always sign a CFer in the offseason (or promote Martin if he is the real deal).
I was thinking more along the lines of Marlon Byrd...not sure what it would cost to get him...maybe Davis...give them Borbon too.
Shows the epic fail in not keeping Byrd to begin with.
Trey - There was no money to give Byrd.
Sizemore is not on the block now, though. Cleveland is winning at the moment and word from their camp is that they would be buyers, not sellers, in July if they are still in it.
Yeah, Cleveland will wait until A) July B)they are out of contention and C) until his value is much higher than it is right nowIf they fall out of contention, I think this is a great idea. He is signed through 2012 i believe so it would give Leonys martin an extra season to grow, and by then you can decide between Hamilton and Sizemore to re-sign to play LF, with Cruz being resigned by then to man RF. I sure they would take Borbon/Beltre and Davis, then 2 pitching prospects in the lower levels (Erlin, Ross, de los Santos, or even Kirkman)
I like Maybin from the Padres
I think Upton would be the better choice if the trade pieces are the same. Also, I dont Borbon has very much value to teams when the reason we are looking for a CF is because we dont think he's the answer.
I doubt the Indians with the best record in baseball would deal their potentialy best player while they are winning. I would Love to get Marlon Byrd back maybe CD Julio Borbon and Mark Lowe kill two birds with one stone. Or in this case three...
I agree....bring back Marlon Byrd. Even if it costs us CD. Byrd plays the game the right way.
Byrd uses Victor Conte for his "supplements." I wouldn't be surprised to see him suspended in the near future. Don't get me wrong, I like the guy, but he's messing with fire.
This is my list of CF i would like the Rangers to acquire in order based on desire to have them on the Rangers.
M.ByrdM.BournD.FowlerC.MaybinB.J.Upton^^^^^^^^^^^^^These are guys who i think will be available sometime soon.Bellow are guys i would lose my mind if the Rangers were able to get um.A. McCutchinM. KempC. Rasmus
I really like the idea of a deal for Bourn. He's kinda like everything Borbon is...and hasn't been.
Sizemore sure has looked like what we remembered him to be so far. Homered in his second plate appearance and it was a no doubter.
He's just going to be too expensive in prospects I believe. Unless JD could work out a deal that didn't include Perez and no more than one of Profar and E. Beltre, I don't want to see those guys go for anything less than top of the order pitching.
I think they should try MY in center.
Juan Pierre (or Alex Rios) seems probably the most doable. The White Sox are sucking big and they've got a huge payroll, and at 33, Pierre isn't in the long term plans of the Sox.
MY LineupPierre CFKinsler 2BMY DHHamilton LFBeltre 3BCruz RFMoreland 1BTorrealba/Nappy CElvis SS
Non MY lineupPierre CFKinsler 2BHamilton LFBeltre 3BCruz RFMoreland 1BMurphy/Nappy DH platoon Torrealba CElvis SS
There a post from MLB trade rumor today listing all potential CF's & their availability this year. According to Ken Rosenthal if Grady Sizemore is traded the 2012 year become an option year for him. Don't see Rangers meeting Cleve's demands for a rental. Borbon is one the players on the list.See List:Center Field Options For The NationalsBy Tim Dierkes [April 25, 2011 at 10:23am CST]
Six days ago, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports reported that the Nationals are searching for a center field upgrade. They haven't talked to the Rays about B.J. Upton, but it's unlikely we'll see any significant trades in general until the second half of June anyway. Which center fielders might be available this summer aside from Upton? We won't consider those who will be eligible for free agency after the season, other than Sizemore.
Angel Pagan, Mets. Pagan will be eligible for free agency after the 2012 season, so the Mets might not consider him their long-term answer in center field. Would Sandy Alderson be open to sending him to a division rival? He's struggling so far in his second full season as a regular. Marlon Byrd, Cubs. Brett Jackson, perhaps the Cubs' top prospect, is primed to push Byrd aside soon. Byrd, 33, is owed $6.5MM next year. He might not be what the Nationals have in mind. Matt Kemp, Dodgers. The Dodgers can easily keep Kemp and Trayvon Robinson in the same outfield by moving Kemp to a corner. I can't picture the Dodgers' ownership situation forcing a trade of Kemp, even if his salary exceeds $10MM next year before he hits free agency. I could see a new owner agreeing to a mega-extension with Kemp, but if they can't find common ground perhaps he'd become available this winter. Michael Bourn, Astros. Bourn is a viable trade candidate. The Scott Boras client is under team control through 2012 and earns $4.4MM this year. Rajai Davis, Blue Jays. The Jays are light on short-term alternatives without Davis - note that Corey Patterson is starting in center while Davis recovers from an ankle injury. Still, I expect Alex Anthopoulos to keep an open mind. Davis' contract will look team-friendly if he starts performing. Julio Borbon, Rangers. If the Rangers continue to gravitate toward David Murphy in center field and feel good longer-term about Engel Beltre and Leonys Martin, Borbon could be expendable. Aaron Rowand, Giants. Rowand is having a decent April, taking over in center when Andres Torres hit the DL. However, the Giants would have to pick up almost all of the $22MM owed to him through 2012 to move him. Grady Sizemore, Indians. The first-place Indians hope to be thinking about adding rather than subtracting this July. If things go wrong, Sizemore will be very attractive on the trade market, even though his 2012 option becomes a player option upon a trade. For that reason, he may not be a fit for the Nationals even if he's made available. Chris Denorfia, Padres. He continues to play well in a fourth outfielder role, but perhaps he could be had. Felix Pie, Orioles. Pie is another fourth outfielder type who can handle center. The Orioles need him around as a center field backup, but they'd have to listen if the Nationals made a solid offer. Chris Heisey, Reds. Heisey is a cost-effective left field option for the Reds, so he might be hard to pry loose. Charlie Blackmon, Rockies. The Rockies' #11 prospect could work his way into the right field mix, or the team could consider a trade. Scott Cousins, Marlins. Cousins ranked seventh among Marlins prospects heading into the season, according to Baseball America. Right now he's needed by the Marlins as Chris Coghlan's center field backup, and he'll see increased playing time while Logan Morrison is out. They may prefer to maintain the depth. The Marlins did deal within the division with the Dan Uggla trade. Mitch Maier, Royals. Maier has played center field more than anywhere else. The 28-year-old may have to settle for an extra outfielder job if he remains in Kansas City. Torii Hunter, Angels. What do the Angels do when Mike Trout is Major League ready? Vernon Wells is probably immovable, so you have to wonder if they could trade Hunter. Hunter is only under contract through 2012 though so it's quite possible they make it work without a deal.
I agree we have to do something soon, unless Julio plays every game like he finally did last night - Monday 4/24. First stolen base(s) of the season, hit the ball on the ground and played a nice CF. It's about time. All those lazy pop ups that usually hits to the OF are freakin killing me
Wash dosn't want Josh out there and I LOVE Murph but he cannot come close to covering the MLB CF range.
B J Upton? Seriously. 4 straight years of regressing production, this year could be a 5th. Plus his attitude is lousy. Sizemore? I'm not sure he's the same player anymore. He's more a name than anything else until he recaptures some of what he once was. I always liked Marlon Byrd, but he's aging out as an answer in CF.
Stand pat. For now.
Agree MY should play CF. He could probably play the entire OF and we could then have 2 extra infielders. Ground ball steel curtain.
Try Gentry first, then Maybin or Justin Upton, who is playing RF but can handle CF just as easy. Upton may be expensive but Maybin, an unfulfilled 5 tool CF, could be acquired for Davis- lightning striking twice for SD with a Ranger 1b man And Borbon. But not Sizemore, even if he looks like a great fit. He simply Ks way too much. And if you really want to stat the Rangers turn around from 2009 look no further than the K War, which if noticing Minor League games they are constantly winning.
Agree that Sizemore would cost too much, especially since he seems to be injury-prone. Upton could be a great fit. Sour attitude in TB, but I think his attitude and play would improve just by being around Wash, Bosley, and MY.
Was the question "Can you name a center fielder that is as injury prone as Josh?"
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