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W,

That is not how I mean disrespect.

I do not blame JD for going after Beltre. I blame him for not being direct with MY about the fact that he wanted to trade him, and tried to get him to ask for a trade by searching for bats that would cut into his playing time. That I find quite disrespectful. He should have just told him that he was going to have to take a lot of days off and MY would have asked for a trade and it would be clean, maybe hard to stomach but clear. This shit is the result of very bad leadership both on JD's and Greenberg's part.

Joe

February 8, 2011 at 9:54 AM | Unregistered CommenterJoe

Joe

How do you know that's what JD did here? Seems like you are making a pretty big jump by reading into the situation this way. Why can't what happened just be what happened? Texas tried to get Lee, and took Beltre as the next best option. They tried to get a few other guys as DH, and fell upon Napoli at the last moment, who is a better fit for them. I don't think they did that in order to try to squeeze Mike out, but rather they did it to try to improve the team, feeling like they would sort it all out later, or maybe even in ST.

I am not convinced this is a case of bad leadership, though - unless you call giving Mike one of the 5 worst contracts - and back-loaded at that - in baseball "bad leadership." Like I said, I think this is a case of a team getting a lot better & having to make some tough personnel decisions.

February 8, 2011 at 10:05 AM | Unregistered CommenterWWJDD?

And the way they handled their personnel was not upfront. MY was honest all along while JD was bullshitting all along saying one thing and doing another.

February 8, 2011 at 3:47 PM | Unregistered CommenterJoe

Joe,

I'm not sure Young was any more honest than JD. I suspect that he told JD he would NOT be okay with Beltre being signed (hoping to block the signing). Then it leaked to the media that he had said that, and he went and said just the opposite to Evan Grant in an effort to prevent himself being traded.

Then, after Beltre was finally signed, he said he was okay being moved to DH full time, but it's pretty clear that was never really the case. Later on, he qualified it by saying he was fim with that move "for now". Except that the Rangers' (superior) starters at 2B, SS, and 3B are all under team control through the entirety of Young's current contract. This implies that at some point in the next 3 years, Young was going to cease being happy at DH and demand either a full-time IF role or a trade.

But here's the thing, Joe, Sometimes a Boss has to lie to an employee about company operations that are above the employee's pay grade. That's life, and it has to work that way. And it's okay. It's less okay for an employee to lie to a boss about his job.

Look, the way I read this, either Nolan Ryan is lying about Michael Young changing his mind, or else Michael Young is lying about the reasons he wants to be traded. Or both. But either Nolan or Young is a liar in all of this. I'm not a huge Nolan fan, but I have a harder time believing he'd lie to the media about a player than that Young would lie to the media about the FO.

February 8, 2011 at 4:06 PM | Unregistered CommenterScooby Dude

When I first heard that he was being heavily shopped, I was crushed. He has been mr. Ranger for the last decade and has been a complete professional in every sense of the word, at least in the public eye. However, after reading his comments, it is clear that there has been tension for awhile between him and the FO, and now I am 100% for trading him and believe that he will net us some useful pieces for the ML team or a couple of promising prospects that could have significant upside. Right now, it appears that the only ending to this dramatic movie is MY in another uniform

So now I wonder what kind of impact this may have on the FO in the long term. Could this be the beginning of the end for JD and/or Nolan? Could this impact future FAs in a negative way for us and maybe push potential FA signings away after they see how JD "has treated" the former face of the franchise?

I hope he is just traded and there are no side effects, but you never know what is going on between the guys in the FO.

February 8, 2011 at 10:42 PM | Unregistered CommenterRyan from Waco